• iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works
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    1 month ago

    So sick and tired of this myth, how are Americans so goddamn ignorant of their own tax system that this continues to persist.

    Corporations are evil for a million and one reasons. This isn’t one of them.

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      I know people who still repeat the line that earning more money will push them into a higher tax bracket and they’d end up with less money than if they stayed at their current income.

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        Oh man don’t even get me started on that one too. I knew some people that genuinely thought a bonus would make them earn less overall.

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          If i was a manager and someone turned down a raise/bonus because “tax” reasons, i would seriously evaluate my own managerial skills…

          Like, how did i not notice this person is a complete moron and why did i offer them a raise?

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        So, there are some misconceptions about this on both sides. While some may misunderstand how tax brackets work, there absolutely are certain income thresholds where barely going over a certain amount will net you less money overall.


        Edit: To clarify, you should accept the raise. In most cases all you need to do to avoid “losing money” at any of these points is to lower your AGI by contributing to an IRA, 401K, etc.


        For example (using 2025 numbers here for a single filer):



        • Medicare Premium Increase (for those on medicare)
          @ $106k your medicare tax increases by $888, so you don’t want a raise that puts you between $106k and $~107k
          @ $133k medicare tax increases by $1.3k, so you don’t want a raise between $133k and $134k
          @ $167k medicare tax increases by $1.3k again
          @ $200k medicare tax increases by $1.3k again
          @ $500k medicare tax increases by $444… https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/insurance/medicare/what-is-the-medicare-irmaa

        • Roth IRA @ $150k you start to lose out on benefits from having a Roth IRA @ $165k you can no longer contribute to a Roth IRA, so if you’re close to this limit, you’re going to do what you can to stay under this income bracket as much as possible (contribute to an HSA, 401k, IRA, etc). https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/investing/roth-ira-contribution-limits


        There are probably a few other taxes/credits I didn’t include, but this is just a quick example with what I could look up at the moment.

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      This myth is probably prevalent because corporations have spent the last 40 years squeezing every cheat and every advantage they can out of the system — to the point where anything that even smells like a “good gesture” is rightfully met with suspicion and contempt from the people they’ve been so blissfully exploring.

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        Oh shoot…I missed it. I DVR’d the election results, and never got around to watching it. Don’t tell me! No spoilers! I want to see if it we finally elect our first black president. It’s Obama vs McCain.

        …also, I’ve been in a coma for a while. 2024, huh? Do we have flying cars yet?

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      Because we’re Americans. Ignorant is kind of our power play! We’ll angrily defend a position we know nothing about, and then call YOU wrong for being well versed on the matter.

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        Ha! I’m going to retort one example of an extremely rare edge case, and that invalidates your entire argument!

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      maaaan! you must come from a country where the laws actually protect customers from the corporations rather than the other way around… otherwise you could never come up with such a naive statement.

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      I don’t know much about this. How is this not “one of them”? It seems to be like one of them.

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        The company doesn’t get any benefit at all on its taxes by collecting donations from customers. Those donations belong to the customers, who themselves can claim them on taxes. The company is doing a good thing by encouraging and soliciting charity.