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I’m switching to Linux before I ever touch win11
Just got a W11 laptop new from work, (replacing a dead W10 machine). It is such a mess. It is trying hard to be a modern desktop like KDE Plasma or GNOME, but without a cohesive setup. And bluescreened twice already, had a WebApp failure error, and locked up completely another time at login. This is brand-new Out of the Box.
That sounds like a faulty install or machine. Win11 has issues but that’s not a regular experience that you’re describing
I would have thought so too but a few colleagues had a few bluescreens, and the machines are not all the same make or model.
Happened a lot for my win11 laptop my company refreshed for me. 16GB dell laptop and WSL running plus zoom, firefox and obsidian and it kept getting blue screens for running out of memory.
Lmao epic, thanks windows
Hmmm. I don’t really like Windows myself and haven’t setup a machine without for me in one a decade. But neither my work “development” laptop (in quotation marks because I’m not a developer) nor a mini PC I installed for my dad ever had bluescreens. They can still happen, of course… but it almost seems to require effort with really bad drivers or broken hardware.
The obvious Windows issues nowadays are a different category from 20 years ago in my opinion.
They still happen even on W10, but we support a lot of customers, that have a lot of users, so I probably encounter them more than a person with one or two PCs ( just statistically)
Often it were would be network or monitor connection.
HP workstations laptops I could blue screen consistently by plugging in my phone set to USB network tether. Immediate NDIS bluescreen. I don’t blame windows 100% for that, it just didn’t like seeing a new network device in the Kernel
zorin os baby
I don’t think that the people still on windows 10 are in a hurry to upgrade. I suspect that either they don’t want to or are not aware of the risk of outdated security updates. So in the end it probably will come down to whether those people need an actual hardware upgrade or not.
Yeah this is captured by the “need” with a bunch of up votes in this thread… The average person just doesn’t “get it.”
local AI is cool and all, but neither the hardware nor the models are really ready for your average consumer
Every person I know either already has a Windows 11 ready device, or doesn’t know what an OS is. In the later case, I doubt they would trust themselves to buy a new laptop, rightfully tho. Luckily we have a bunch of old laptops from work, Win 11 compatible. Nobody will buy a new Laptop in my village!
And for those tech-savvy, or with tech-savvy family members, you can put Win11 on basically any PC. It may run like shit, but all the requirements can be disabled.
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It depends. Microsoft has recently enabled compilation options for their binaries that will make them incompatible with older CPUs: https://www.guru3d.com/story/windows-11-24h2-new-cpu-instruction-requirements-impact-compatibility-on-older-hardware/
Granted, these are quite old nowadays, but they could enforce newer instructions as well, like AVX-512.
Wouldn’t it be possible to emulate these new instructions? It would definitely hinder the performance, tho.
From my understanding, what you’re suggesting requires emulation, so you’d probably need another operating system underneath; there are translation layers for other architectures, like Apple has with Rosetta and what WINE did for Arm, but it sounds very challenging to implement something like this for executables of the actual operating system which can operate at a very low level. So I guess this is in the theoretical realm. Maybe someone is mad enough to do this, but I wouldn’t expect it.
Hi there. Nice to meet you. I am a person. My desktop computer’s motherboard is from 2009ish and only has BIOS, no UEFI. I cannot upgrade it to Windows 11 because of this. I know what an OS is.
What is an os?
Operating system. 💜
I guess my question should have been, what is an operating system?
I can’t do it justice in a timely manner. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operating_system
“update to win 11”? Welp, guess my next PC is a Steamdeck.
the expected increase in prices next year is hastening that timeline in the u.s.
“Need” to upgrade?
need is a strong word, lmao
I NEED to order another nvme to install Linux and move on. still need to have windows for a few things but will be an afterthought.
Funny I just bought a 2021 Lenovo X1 Carbon to replace my Thinkpad from 2016, both running Linux immediately.
