• Blaze (he/him)@feddit.orgOP
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    1 month ago

    A comment saying

    Lemmy is federated, with communities scatered around different servers. If someone is gonna search for an alternative to reddit, I doubt they want to have to learn to navigate the fediverse.

    Currently has 15 votes, while my comment suggesting people to try Lemmy as it’s bigger is down to 2.

    I’m not sure if Lemmy just has a very bad reputation over there in general, or if Discuit people are brigading the comments

    • Kichae@lemmy.ca
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      1 month ago

      People find the “which ‘Gaming’ community is the real one?” issue very frustrating, because they currently have the illusion that they have access to everything all in one place. The idea that you can’t have a discussion with a million other people is meaningless to them, totally crushed under the weight of FOMO.

      They look at Reddit, and they look at Lemmy, and they see that they’re different, but don’t really care why. They see that different (not more, just different) effort is required to navigate the space. They don’t care that they just need a different mental model to understand the space – they don’t want one. And the design language of the space communicates to them that they don’t need one.

      I’m not going to get up on my soapbox and rant and rave about this today – I’m too tired, and it’s too busy of a week – but this is what I mean when I keep saying we can’t win against centralized social media by aping the UI. “Lemmy” just isn’t a Reddit replacement in the same way that another centralized service is. A Lemmy-based website, sure. But not the network of them.

      • Blaze (he/him)@feddit.orgOP
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        30 days ago

        totally crushed under the weight of FOMO.

        Wouldn’t they have FOMO by not following /r/Gaming, /r/Games, /r/Videogames, etc. as well?

        And the design language of the space communicates to them that they don’t need one.

        They don’t really need one. They can just open https://vger.app/ , see that it’s quite similar to what Apollo used to be, then have a look around and see if they like it. They don’t need to understand federation to lurk. They don’t need to understand federation to install an app.

        If they click on the vote or comment buttons, Voyager suggests them to register an account on Lemm.ee. Again, no need to understand what federation is to get it running.

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      30 days ago

      I thought your parent comment to it was very well stated and succinct.

      e.g. you don’t have to know how it works anymore than someone needs to know how email or a combustion engine works - you simply click to go there and start reading stuff, if you like it then make an account and start participating as well.:-)

      Lemmy requires heavy curation to block extremist content if one is so inclined (as I am), but wasn’t Reddit becoming that way too when we left it? And on X I think it simply can’t be done at all. It would be neat if we could add a “political” tag to filter by (like NSFW/NSFL), but meh, it is what it is.

      Unlike some other instances, the default there is All, so they’ll see the entirety of the Fediverse (minus Lemmygrad + Hexbear) even without an account or having to click anything at all. It’s the perfect instance to recommend to the Reddit audience that is so heavily American (according to similarweb, 51%:-).

      You are doing great work making sure that people are aware of what choices they have available to them - what they do with that is ofc up to them.:-)