• john89@lemmy.ca
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    12 days ago

    Same goes for US companies.

    Have we learned nothing from Snowden?

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      10 days ago

      Yeah it is similar, but not the same (at least not yet).

      China is a one-party state, and the government has control over private enterprise. If you are a Chinese company, the PRC ultimately has control of it, and that means the Chinese military has access to anything you have access to, if they want it.

      This is on a different level than anything Snowden released.

      Edit: For people who think I mean “party” like US political parties: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-party_state#Current_one-party_states

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        11 days ago

        China is a one-party state

        I wish you could realise how hilarious it is to read someone comparing the US and China on their number of political parties…

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          11 days ago

          Oh? So you are saying that there are no functional difference between a federation of 50 states, each with individual (somewhat independent) local and state governments, and the authoritarian CCP?

          When I say “China is a one-party state,” I’m not referring to political parties as we would understand them in the US (Democrat/Republican). I am referring to the actual structure of the government.

          You might want to maybe educate yourself on what a “one-party state” means in this context before trying to make snarky comments.

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            11 days ago

            You’re right, I’m sorry, I really should educate myself about the US beyond the 40+ years of propaganda I’ve had to endure and the absolutely constant, never ending stream of shit across all media I’m the grateful recipient of, thanks to the Internet™. But honestly, I’m kinda scared I’d actually die if I came to visit.

            Meanwhile, my experience with China over the last ten years or so has left me regularly wondering, in the grand scheme of things, what the fucking difference is. You both are absolutely insane, from where I live.

            But yes, I was totally cherry picking your message. I don’t disagree with you, to be clear. I’m just amused about your choice of epithet.

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              10 days ago

              No worries… apologies if I was snippy.

              And yeah, the US and China are both insane… Unfortunately for me, as an American, China seems to be the more stable one these days (and it’s only going to get worse starting 1/20).

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            11 days ago

            I’m being slightly disingenuous by focusing on one expression in the entire message, granted.
            But honestly, using “one party state” as an epiteth, like that’s what you want to focus on that’s badwrong about China? that’s amusing to me, reading this from Europe. YMMV.