• SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works
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    2 months ago

    It’s sad but he’s not wrong. Nazi has been used on so many people I’ve lost count and people wonder why it has lost effect

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        2 months ago

        Crying wolf…again. The guy in the comic has to specify “literally a nazi” because using the regular word’s meaning has been diluted so he has to put emphasis to specify it’s a “true” nazi, not just a “vague” nazi.

        Yes it’s frustrating red shirt won’t turn around to see that it is in fact a true, no shit, actual, factual, punchable, dictionary definition of a nazi but that’s because the word has been overused. Your reply is proof.

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        2 months ago

        If people have been previously calling other people nazis excessively (i have seen people call a huge part of lemmy fascists), it doesnt mean anything the next time someone says there is a nazi

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        2 months ago

        Not only that, but the guy wearing the uniform (god knows what for) is talking to someone. Presumably a friend, which means he is also a Nazi!

        The guy being warned over? Also a Nazi!

        The guy warning the other? Also a Nazi for not stepping up and actually doing something!

        The guy drawing attention and propaganda to the Nazis through rendering in comic form? You guessed it, also a Nazi!

        The guy sharing said propaganda here? Also a Nazi!

        The ones discussing it instead of actually doing something about it? Nazis as well.

        The mods that allowed it on Lemmy? Bunch of Nazis!

        I’d continue but I am willing to bet you did not see that coming

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        I know, it’s the response from red shirt. He doesn’t listen to the guy calling out the nazi, explaining how it’s probably just overexaggeration.

        It’s similar to the ending of the boy who cried wolf. It’s not that most people like wolves, or side with wolves, or think wolves aren’t a threat. It’s the person that that yells wolf is ignored when the real deal comes around.

        I don’t like nazis. At all. But there is certainly an argument that the term had been used too loosely (I was just called one in this comment section ffs) and now people are making nazi salutes in DC and are being ignored.

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      Bullshit. We’ve been calling so many people Nazis precisely because they actually turned out to be Nazis. Every single fucking one of them.

      If you didn’t see it, it’s because you were deliberately turning a blind eye.

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      Do you think it plausible that actual white supremacist Neo Nazis might call other people Nazis, despite being fully aware that they are not, simply to further muddle the issue? A sort of, “I know you are, but what am I?” defense, that most of us master somewhere in early childhood?

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        Yeah I get that they would try to make noise to hide in. But I imagine that is not the majority of cases where someone is labeled as a nazi. Note this was from 2010, long before Trump entered politics.

        And this isn’t to say I like, support or side with them it’s just people ignore the term after a while of hearing it everywhere for all kinds of things that don’t fit

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      No, he’s still wrong. Even if he has been conditioned to ignore the term because of overuse of the term, he’s still wrong.

      The people who ignored the boy the third time he cried wolf were wrong. The proof they were wrong is that they lost their sheep. The moral of the story isn’t “don’t listen when little boys cry wolf three times and the first two times turn out to be false.” The moral is “don’t cry wolf when there is no wolf or people will stop listening to you.”

      So you can argue that the people who conditioned red shirt not too look were wrong, i.e. “the boy who cried Nazi”, but in this case red shirt is most definitely wrong.

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        That is exactly what I am trying to convey, thank you.

        Red shirt is wrong for ignoring the pointing person. The person pointing out the nazi is right. I am trying to argue that the person pointing out the nazi and the people who conditioned red shirt to the point of ignoring a legitimate cry are not the same and ultimately did not help things.

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          Yeah. I’m ignoring the strawman part of the argument that the people calling wolf for the past 80 years were always lying, since it doesn’t affect red shirt’s wrongness.