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Not as good as them offering the repair parts themselves I feel like, but this is still super cool!
Edit: it sounds like they also offer some parts themselves! Thats honestly fantastic
As long as they’re offering the models for free, probably cheaper for the end users at least.
Not only the models are free but they are released under a Creative Commons license!
Meaning that anyone can modify and redistribute them.
I wonder if Norelco is thinking they can get new designs for free by seeing what people do. May even influence handle designs.
It’s like having a design department that’s 100x larger.
i mean you still have to get them somehow, i doubt getting them shipped to you is going to be cheap and good luck getting the average person to figure out how any of this works in the first place
Hear me out, in a way that’s actually better, because you can modify the original models to make them better.
Like the guards on these razors have usually annoying flaws: they are too thick, which pushes a lot of hair down, and the bottom is too round and doesn’t lift the hair. You can take the model from Philips, remix it, and get exactly what you need.
And if the company is smart, it will enable sharing of improved models.
Not to mention, if you have the model you can print it even long after the product support has ended. No company will support a product they stopped making half a decade ago, but you’ll still be able to print parts the same way.
It definitely has its upsides! It just also means you need to have access to a 3d printer or pay for a 3d printing service
Paying for a 3D printing service or going to a local makerspace is probably still cheaper than whatever Philips would have charged for an injection molded equivilant.
Maybe they plan to. I’ve been wondering why companies don’t do this already.
While a product is actively manufactured, cranking out a few extra pieces is cheap and easy. However once it’s discontinued stocking or manufacturing parts is a cost with no profit potential. Wouldn’t the manufacturer save money, resources, warehouse space by releasing the deign and contract with a printing service to build on demand and shindig to the customer?
Just share your own design on one of the 3D model sites, no license/open license. Just be sure to remove any Norelco data from the file.
They probably already did offer spare parts on at least some products if you really wanted them, but shipping is pretty prohibitive on stuff like that.
I agree but also this future-proofs the replacements. Phillips could always stop selling ones they make.
They sell guards through a 3rd party. They don’t advertise it well, so it took me some time to find them last time.
Nice idea. Now make the batteries replaceable in things like shavers, and stop making the replacement foils the printer ink of the personal grooming consumables world. For those that don’t know, you can buy a battery operated shaver for say $60 and the replacement foil and cutter will cost $30-40. Half the cost of a new shaver for a small bit of plastic and metal.
They were replaceable in the old Norelco shavers. It required soldering. If you’re 3D printing then soldering is on the same level of technical skill. There’s even a solder bridge to disconnect the battery.
Dude, Just buy a a Wahl clipper set and avoid that headache.
Mine has a big beefy wall-plug one, and one that runs off two AA batteries. Also sturdy as fuck and I’ve abused and misused the damn thing for like 15 years and they are both still going strong.
Clippers or shaver? Clippers don’t shave close. I do have a Wahl clipper, it’s great, but it doesn’t shave.
Those aren’t capable of what a OneBlade can do. Not the same thing at all.
Also, allow the blades on the newest model to be reversed. The old version could be reversed, so when the leading edge got dull, you could flip it around.
With the newest version, it’s nearly impossible to use the back edge because of the curve of the handle. Clearly designed to reduce blade life by half.
I just don’t buy battery operated stuff that doesn’t have to be battery operated. That’s why my bathroom has electrical outlets. K.I.S.S. principal.
I tried to find an electric shaver that plugs into the wall two years back. I gave up and got one that takes AA batteries (rechargeable ones may be expensive but still cheaper per use than proprietary bullshit)
My braun has a replaceable battery, it’s a li-ion 14500 (AA size but 3.7V), they’re a couple bucks.
Well this is cool as fuck! Make sure you print in ABS or better if your printing this
Petg or ASA would be fine too. I wouldn’t do PLA it wouldn’t last. And I wouldn’t do anything glass or carbon fiber infused if it’s going be touching and dragging on skin.
And I would do anything glass or carbon fiber infused if it’s going be touching and dragging on skin.
Did you perhaps mean to have a “not” somewhere in there?
Yep! Thanks! Updated, my bad
Cool, you’re welcome, and no problem!
Doesn’t 3d print have bacteria issues with water?
You shouldn’t use them to eat or drink, but for this purpose it should be fine
As long as they don’t lose money on their subscription products (like razor blades) they are glad to make sure your device requiring subscription supplies is functioning and you’re invested in more regular purchases of consumables.
This looks like a win win situation to me. You don’t have to replace your item and they continue to sell consumables.
They probably don’t make much money on the “razor” sale, the consumables though are almost all profit. It costs me a dime per blade for my safety razor which performs better anyway and can’t really ever break, plus it’s solid metal so easily recycled some day not that it would ever die in normal use cases.
Jokes on em, I (don’t own any Philips product anymore) just buy off brand.
But hey, repairability might make me consider their stuff in the future.
I use a safety razor. My blades are a dime a piece. The thing will last longer than I will, for sure.
Being able to unscrew the blade to get all the bits of hair out with a quick rinse is way better than any of those multi-blade monstrosities.
I don’t shave as in shave all the way, I just trim, but I do use classic razor thingamabob for cleaning around.
I use some wahl clippers for beard trimming. I have so much hair on my face I still need to shave places to not be a scraggly ogre.
Wahl peanut is great for this, but practically anything nowadays works.
The OneBlade is awesome! Philips is also a European brand.
I’m using mine for i think 10 years now. I used to hate shaving so much, and i still do, but i can’t imagine a better solution to be honest.
I always thought the oneblade was just super overhyped, but it’s actually been so much better than my last razor. So it’s cool to know that they do user-friendly stuff like this too
It’s because it doesn’t get a “close” shave, so it spares the skin! I loved using safety razors, but my skin didn’t. Traditional electric razors were even worse than blades.
But the OneBlade helps a lot. And it’s awesome that you can buy all kinds of attachment blades for shaving every part of your body. Plus, it’s cheap, portable, and now a little better for DIY parts. I just wish it used a user removable 18650 cell or something. I think you basically have to discard the entire unit if it stops holding a charge :(
What’s the license of the files? Are third parties able to modify and sell them?
Let’s not let perfect be the enemy of good…
What if the good is greatly dimished by not perfection, but something totally reasonable or even expectable?
Pretty sure it would be better if they didn’t release anything at all. Then I wouldn’t be breaking the law if I sold both their product and replacement parts for their product
You can still do that
Its NC. The license makes that illegal
If they released nothing you wouldn’t be breaking the law because you wouldn’t be selling it.
You still have to option of not selling it.
And just take a loss on the filament? That’s dumb.
You can always print another benchy.
Good question!
It looks like Creative Commons non-commercial, according to the download page.
So no reselling. I wonder if that prevents print shops from renting use of their 3d printers from a customer who doesn’t own a 3d printer.
From my understanding the last time I looked into this the way it works is that the printed model inherits the license. That means you can’t sell cc-noncommercial models directly, but if someone contracts a print shop and provides the model they can still pay someone to make it due to paying for a service and not that product.
Though print shops seem to flagrantly violate this anyway without much issue.
I think its a gray area that will always be dependent on the geography, lawyers, and the judge.
Right. It’s pre-emptive to prevent people from profiting off of 3d printed replacements.
That sucks
We need to start making these legally required for companies to sell their products. If possible, require them to use local printers/small batch manufacturing facilities for even the initial manufacture (so long as those facilities exist).
If possible
It’s one 1-3mm guard. I’d like to see a couple other sizes but it’s a good start.
I have a oneblade with the adjustable length but it’ be nice to have a static size that I can print.
That exact thing being showcases broke on me while I was shaving my junk over my toilet. It fell right in.
I wish I had a 3d printer now though because being able to print another would be awesome.
Hmm… clever, if you 3d print your junk, you can make it any size you like.
Even black!
Try a library. Or a fab shop near you may print it for a small fee.
Excellent I may do that
Apparently that might be illegal, since its licensed NC
Not able to search that, coming back with north Carolina DMV stuff. Is that Non commercial or something?
NC is Non Commercial. They used an NC license, which makes it illegal to sell.
Its a shit choice because people gotta feed themselves
If I were to buy “rented time on someone’s printer” and that just so happened to come with a free part, how would that play out?
I think it depends on how much money you have to pay lawyers, and how much money Phillips will pay their lawyers
That thing falls in the toilet every time I do the same. I just fish it out and wash it thoroughly.
Why do you 2 not simply shave in the shower?!
Because they like getting feces in their shaver.
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If you’re getting feces in the shaver you haven’t cleaned properly…
I don’t know if it’s water proof and my shower stall is too small
Who said turn on the shower? Plus I know for sure the OneBlade is waterproof - you can see the logo on the website images.
Get in shower, shave with OneBlade, then shower. Problem solved.
Fair enough, but I feel like you glossed over the second half of my sentence.
You second phrase got me giggling for the first time today. Picturing a dude trying to dance around in a 2’x2’ stall, nowhere to hike a leg up, can’t look down without bonking his head on the wall, “Ah fuck all this!”
Sweating profusely, shave head keeps falling off, the stall is glass, so it makes a resonating bonk sound everytime my head hits it.
Philips trimmers SUUUUUUUUCK.
I had an electric trimmer. The plastic attachments for the various shaving grades were fixed at each end with the smallest possible fragment of plastic. So as you’re going over the curves of your skin, those tiny plastic fragments were guaranteed to break before long, rendering the entire trimmer useless, even though it technically still worked. Ordering replacements, which were guaranteed to break, was more expensive than buying an entire new trimmer.
Switched to a different brand and no problems whatsoever.
There’s no way a group of people working for Philips sat around designing that shit and didn’t know it was designed to break. Planned obsolescence. Fuck Philips.
Howdy, i was about to invest in a Philips trimmer, and now I’m wondering what brand you recommend?
I’ll try to remember to check this when I get home. I forgot what my current brand is. But the plastic attachments are designed in such a way that I have zero concern about them breaking.
