Why would I use this over Ollama?
Ollama can’t run on Android
That’s fair, but I think I’d rather self host an Ollama server and connect to it with an Android client in that case. Much better performance.
Yes, that’s my setup. But this will be useful for cases where internet connection is not reliable
Is there any useful model you can run on a phone?
Llama.cpp (on which ollama runs on) can. And many chat programs for phones can use it.
Try PocketPal instead
Duck.ai doesn’t data mine, and has o3 mini which I have found to be very good. Its got some extra functionality like lines to break up text.
Yeah duck is all over bothered with since it came out since you don’t even need to login to use it.
Nice! I saw Mozilla also added an ai chat in the browser recently (not in the phone version that I have seen tho).
It is too bad duck.ai only runs the small models. Gpt4o-mini is not very good, it can be very inaccurate and very inconsistent :( I would like to see the 4.1-mini instead, faster and better and got function calling, so it can do web searches for example. O3 can’t so it can only know what it knows until 2023.
But thanks for the information I will be looking out for when 4.1 is added!
Alibaba also provides an OpenSource App, it even has support for their multimodal voice chat Model qwen2.5 omni: https://github.com/alibaba/MNN
Excellent, I will be sure not to use this, like all Google shit.
In a few years you won’t be able to anyway
I’m just reaching the end game faster then.
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All the time I spent trying to get rid of gemini just to now download this. Am I stupid?
Is the chat uncensored?
And unmonitored? Don’t trust anything from Google anymore.
What makes this better than Ollama?
Quote: “all running locally, without needing an internet connection once the model is loaded. Experiment with different models, chat, ask questions with images, explore prompts, and more!”
So you can download it and set the device to airplane mode, never go online again - they won’t be able to monitor anything, even if there’s code for that included.
never go online again - they won’t be able to monitor anything, even if there’s code for that included.
Sounds counter-intuitive on a smart phone where you most likely want to be online again at some point in time.
So trust them. If you don’t and want to use this, buy a separate device for it, or VM.
Can’t? This is not for you.
I won’t gonna use my smartphone as a local llm machine.
That is exactly what Ollama does too.
everything is unmonitored if you don’t connect to the network.
But not everything works in those conditions.
it does if you make it work in those conditions.
software that “phones home” is easy to fool.
Just firewall the software or is there anything more fancy i would need to do?
typically the phone home is looking for a response to unlock.
use a packet sniffer to see what the request/response is and replicate it with a proxy or response server.
this is also know as a man-in-the-middle (mitm).
takes skill and knowledge to do, but once you do a few dozen it’s pretty easy since most software “phone homes” are looking for static non-encrypted responses.
Thanks for the info!
You never heard of ollama or docker model runner?
Android and iOS.
Enclave on iOS does the trick for the rare times i need a local LLM
Didn’t know about this. Checking it out now, thanks!
god i can’t wait for the ai bubble to pop
There is already GPT4All.
Convenient graphical interface, any model you like (for Llama fans - of course it’s there), fully local, easy to opt in or out of data collection, and no fuss to install - it’s just a Linux/Windows/MacOS app.
For Linux folks, it is also available as flatpak for your convenience.
Wonder what this has over its competitors, I hesitate to think they released this for fun though
