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    1. Israel did this every day for decades
    2. No, they didn’t, I agree
    3. Exactly. And Israel is a terrorist state.
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      1. Not seeing it. If it’s done for decades why does Palestinians population growing?
      2. See 1.
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        If it’s done for decades why does Palestinians population growing?

        1. Because of the high birth rate. It doesn’t matter if Palestinians live today still, the key point is that Israel is systematically committing ethnic cleansing. But no you’re right, let’s wait until the last Palestinian is dead before we condemn Israel and cut off aid.
        2. What is that supposed to mean?
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          1. I don’t see how Israel is actively trying to do any damage. I see Palestinians think killing Israeli is their life purpose. Therefore the only ones who want genocide or cleansing are Palestinians. If they don’t attack Israel, Israel doesn’t attack them.
          2. It means “3. See 1.” - was likely a mistake or autocorrection.
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            There are ample sources that show exactly how Israel does that

            Generally, human rights organizations hsve taken a stance that denounced Israeli state terrorism and apartheid against Palestinians.

            https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2022/02/israels-system-of-apartheid/

            Israel has been accused of genocide on multiple occasions (https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/palestinian-un-envoy-accuses-israel-genocidal-campaign-against-gaza-2023-10-10/ is one recent example) yet no sanctions are ever placed on them

            Look at all the fucking UN resolutions condemning Israel so far. It’s so shameful that Israel is allowed to continue this.

            1969: 11 December: Resolution 2546: Condemns Israeli “violations of human rights and fundamental freedoms” in the occupied territories

            1983 19 December: Resolutions 38/180: Calls all nation to suspend or sever all diplomatic, economic and technological ties with Israel. Condemnation of Israel on various topics including occupation of the West Bank, Gaza and the Golan Heights, war in Lebanon and the annexation of Jerusalem.

            Etc, etc

            My own family were terrorized by Israel’s Deir Yassin massacre, the news of it spread everywhere and they decided to flee and ended up in Jordan after armed confrontation with Israelis where many were killed or went misding. Life in Jordan was frankly shit as a family of Palestinian refugees and I really admire my grandmother for standing up from that.

            Screw Israel. Because of them I had to live as a second class citizen in anothe country where I never felt home and always had less opportunies and protection than others who were Jordanian despite being granted a citizenship. I’m happy my grandmother at least didn’t live long enough to see this shit unfolding after she lived through 1948 and lost everything in it. She deserved to go back. If any of these UN resolutions were followed she would have been home, happy and healthy for once in her life without having to become a goddamn refugee. Israel ruined so many lives, Israel removes whole families from existence. These are facts, and worse of all Israel’s human rights violations are always overlooked.

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              So basically your stance is:

              Here is an article about apartheld, and here is how a Palestinian representative accuses Israel, and here are some resolutions none of which mention how Israeli are killing Palestinians. Also my family got affected by a massacre. Due to these reasons I approve any massacre of Israeli people.

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                How do you put words in people’s mouths like that? Not at any moment did I say any massacre is okay. With all due respect, fuck Israel.

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                  So the rest of the words have been put correctly? Perhaps I’m not so bad at that.

                  Would it be okay with you if I say “fuck Palestine” because I, too, don’t like massacres?

                  Or do you say “fuck Israel” because not enough Israeli have been massacred?

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                    Or do you say “fuck Israel” because not enough Israeli have been massacred?

                    You’re a troll.

                    A country whose governmental and military bodies are dedicated to apartheid should go fuck itself.