• Tinidril@midwest.social
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    1 year ago

    Tell us you haven’t read the Bible without telling us you haven’t read the Bible.

    Just in case you think that’s all OT, Eternal torture was a NT invention. At least when OT God ordered you tortured and killed, that was the end of it.

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      I have read the Bible. In extreme detail, many times. “Hell” isn’t a biblical teaching. It wasn’t even a concept to the ancient Jews and Israelites. It’s not OT or NT.

      Show me something that directly supports a literal eternal torture from the Bible. And parables from Jesus aren’t supporting scriptures, because of their very nature being parables, which are figurative stories to convey a lesson or point for teaching.

      • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world
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        . It wasn’t even a concept to the ancient Jews and Israelites. It’s not OT or NT.

        First off it was. Secondly the Romans had a concept of it and Christianity is basically paganism with a Jewish accent.

        which are figurative stories to convey a lesson or point for teaching.

        Oh, if it is to convey a message then why did Jesus say this?

        Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables: That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them."

        Let me repeat the moneyshot because I think you will ignore it

        lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them."

        Jesus is very very clear here that he speaks in parables so people who are not worthy won’t understand and won’t be able to repent or even stop what they are doing wrong.