• ricecake@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    There’s some legal murkiness I could see coming from that, but in principle it seems like something you would have to prosecute after the individual was born.

    If a fetus isn’t a person, then there’s no victim. The potential of a victim isn’t the same as a victim. The intention for there to be a victim doesn’t even create a victim.

    I think about the closest thing you could argue for would be that if a person knew they were pregnant, could have aborted but chose not to, and engaged in behavior that demonstrably caused harm once there was a live person, then maybe you could argue some type of negligence. But even that feels really close to a slippery slope to me, and makes me too uncomfortable.
    If for no other reason than it could create a situation where someone is prosecuted for knowingly reproducing while having a measurable statistical chance of a heritable birth defect, or just being above the age where down syndrome becomes more likely.

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      1 year ago

      If a fetus isn’t a person, then there’s no victim. The potential of a victim isn’t the same as a victim. The intention for there to be a victim doesn’t even create a victim.

      Except this is precisely the opposite of the logic used if some third party causes the harm. If, say, a pregnant woman gets shot in a mugging gone wrong and her fetus dies as a consequence, were more than willing to count that as a homicide and for some reason this line of reasoning vanishes.

      It’s either a person or not, not whichever is more convenient to the mother in whatever situation occurs.

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        1 year ago

        Personally, I wouldn’t be in favor of classifying that as a homicide, but would rather it be an aggravating factor attached to the crime of shooting the actual person.

        There is a cost, morally and emotionally, to a fetus dying, but it’s not a crime against the fetus but the mother.

        The existence of a law written in a way I disagree with doesn’t obligate me to agree with another one I disagree with.