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    As a reminder, Brave was created by the guy who brought you JavaScript and was later fired from Mozilla for donating to hate groups. Brave also profits from multiple forms of fraud including NFTs and affiliate hijacking.

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      If folk want to have a chromium-based browser made by a company, take a look at Vivaldi instead (which will keep the old plugin architecture, so adblockers work). It has a limited built-in blocker and extra features, but for now still runs uBlock.

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        Vivaldi is what I use, and it’s absolutely the best Chromium browser I’ve ever tried.

        That said, I’d switch to Firefox in a heartbeat if it could duplicate that sidebar. I use that thing all the time, and it’s the only thing keeping me on Chromium.

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            Try it out. It’s a sidebar that allows you to put all kinds of websites and tools in small pop-out windows.

            A less visually appealing, but much more powerful version of the opera chat sidebar.

            I’ve tried to get something similar in Firefox, but nothing comes even close.

            Built-in functions >>> addons any day of the week.

            (cfr mouse gestures)

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              i fucking love vivaldi’s mouse gestures.

              whenever i use firefox i end up constantly opening the inspector view like an absolute moron

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                Yeah, no. I should have put some hyphen I guess.

                Opera chat-tabs. Opera has a sidebar for chat clients (eg messenger, WhatsApp, telegram,…) built-in. It works really well and is prettier than the Vivaldi implementation. Still sticking with Vivaldi though

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            It’s a thin, persistent bar on the left side of the page with tools and shortcuts. By default, it’s where you find bookmarks, history, downloads and things like that, but you can also add custom websites to it as well. They pop out either over or alongside the main window (depending on whether the pin button is pressed), and they display the mobile webpage when available, to be more usable in such a small window. It’s how I use Discord and Mastodon.

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            I just switched to floorp from firefox, it’s so nice to finally have another choice for a non-chromium browser with a reasonable number of plugins

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            Floorp is built on Firefox and was built in Japan and is a new browser with excellent privacy & flexibility.

            There’s something really funny about that sentence. I think it’s because it reminds me of “remember Akira? That’s from Japan.”

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          As A Vivaldi user since day one, I gave it up once I couldn’t take anymore of Googles/Chromium bull hockey. I’m just so done supporting a company like that. Firefox switch wasn’t easy, but after the first week I got used to it and I’m never going back to Chromium browser. Anyone can switch if you actually care enough.

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      This is misleading. The BAT was a reasonable idea not really a scam.

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        It’s not just BAT; Brave also supports NFTs, which are even more unambiguously a scam.

        The company is in bed with the cryptocurrency “industry” which cannot exist without constant fraud, ransomware, and other crimes.

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    Just a reminder, Brave was using people’s likenesses to solicit donations without their consent, and without necessarily give those people the donations.

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    Update: Brave plans to address the issue in a future release. The VPN service will only be installed after a user purchases the VPN.

    “Oh gee whiz did we do that?! Woopsie doodle! We’ll fix it someday!”

    Furthermore, no data is sent to Brave from the VPN services. End

    This might be true but the bigger problem is I have exactly zero reason to believe anything Brave says about the things they’re installing on people’s machines without consent. If you’re still using Brave at this point you’re a fool.

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      They’ll either evil or incompetent. Neither of which I want on my computer

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        when did people start hating on Brave? last I heard it was the best browser for privacy.

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          They’re Chromium based, which erodes any possible claim they could make to privacy.

          Use Firefox instead. You can lock it down further than you can Brave and they don’t rely on Google.

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            Doesn’t Mozilla rely on Google for funding? Genuine question, as I though i read this else where on Lemmy

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              They might get some money from them but certainly not entirely. There’s an entire Mozilla Foundation.

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          I never used Brave, but I believe it was sometime after they started their ad-currency-whatever-thingy (I could of course be wrong).

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    Stop using Brave, jfc. Please use Firefox, it’s not the best, but it’s better than this trash my goodness how many more scandals do people need to get rid of this crap?

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      Yeah the first time I tried Brave it the a bunch of ads for their services - and asking about providing info to their partners - at me constantly. I don’t understand why people use that PoS

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    Damn the negative stories just keep coming in regards to Brave. It’s a shame, I liked using their iOS app but I said fuck it awhile ago already. Firefox is my main b rowser

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      I’m still not sure what to use on my iPad for adblocking. Someone please tell me what to use instead on iPad! Everything else is Firefox + uBlock Origin, of course.

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        Apple makes it quite difficult. Honestly, I don’t think there’s a good option. Maybe try DNS based adblocking, by either setting your DNS to one that blocks ads or by setting up a Pihole, which gives you more control.

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      I used to be a Brave user. I loved it. It worked well, it blocked ads without me asking, whatever. Then Google said they’re gonna bake ad blocker blocking into the API and, knowing Brave was Chromium based, I went back to Mozilla after like 100 years.

      Two observations:

      1. I was kinda deluded

      2. Mozilla got their shit together, Firefox is as awesome again, by comparison, as it was when they unseated Internet Explorer.

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    Vivaldi is a better brave. You get built in ad blocking and tracking prevention along with not having built in crypto

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      And mouse gestures! Configurable tab stacking! Workspaces! Notes and pinned tabs! Tab tiling! Web apps in the sidebar! I love Vivaldi.

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        Remember when Opera had all of these things a literal decade+ ago? I remember.

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            I love Vivaldi, but there’s just something about it’s UI that bothers me. I can’t quite put my finger on it - it just feels slightly off.

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          Yeah, I followed their dev over when they left. Opera seems to be a mess these days. I used Opera for over a decade.

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      There’s no built in crypto anything except for the odd ad on the homepage to buy crypto. Which, sure, is kinda lame, but they don’t mine crypto in the background or anything like that.

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    The only chrome variant that doesn’t seem sketchy to install is chromium. The built from open source chromium. And that’s just because some sites barely function unless you’re using chrome’s rendering.

    For everything else, Firefox.

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        I don’t know that I’d call that a chromium browser but I’ve only looked at its docs for 10 minutes. Hard to say where chromium integration begins and ends there without digging into the code. Seems like, at most, it’s using the web rendering engine from the chromium project. But it also seems to suggest it has its own modules for executing/rendering js/css/html.

        Probably not included in the “should be avoided” category.

        Now I’m curious what it’s used for.

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          I’m currently using it in a browser called Falkon. It’s not as big as Firefox or Chrome, but it is endorsed by KDE. Also, Apple’s Safari is using something similar.

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            Not at all.

            Safari is using WebKit, which they based on KDE’s old KHTML engine, which is now discontinued.

            Falkon uses qtwebengine which is Chromium’s web engine + integration with QT user interface.

            A Linux browser that uses WebKit (like Safari) is GNOME Web.

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    the brave experience was less than ideal for me, the brave search is unusable, i switched back to firefox, which i had moved to from chrome

    also, related, but a side note, word to the wise, never ever ever use a free vpn ever, someones gotta foot the bill for the exit server bandwidth, and either they’re keeping logs or they’re not keeping logs, but you’ll never know, and you won’t know when they sell their settup to the next guy. always use a major vpn service who’s audited and shown proof they’re not keeping logs, they’re in the business of secure and private vpn service. free vpns like what brave are offering are not in that business, and server, rack space, bandwidth costs actual money

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    The amount of people I see shilling for Brave like it’s God’s gift to privacy is frankly kind of disturbing given how many issues they’ve had with privacy