• ShustOne@lemmy.one
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    1 year ago

    I’m not sure what your experience is with the training data but that would absolutely effect the inputs.

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      1 year ago

      I’m a professional software developer with ML experience, albeit not an expert in ML specifically. It would obviously affect the literal value of the embeddings, but there’s no chance it would have a qualitative effect on a reasonably performant model.

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        1 year ago

        It would though and their paper shows as much. The thing many forget is that it isn’t trained visually like us. Little input changes like this have a big impact.

        Now eventually if everyone uses the same glazing method the training won’t care but at the moment this is bespoke enough that it can’t be trained well on it. It will always be an arms race though.

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          1 year ago

          No, it wouldn’t, and the paper shows no such thing. Nightshade isn’t “Gaussian blur + sharpen.” It’s based on the use of a different diffusion model to perturb an image (with bounded difference in perceptual similarity) to minimize the distance of the embedding from that of an unrelated concept. It is mathematically optimized and highly specific to the prompt. The clever thing is that you don’t need access to the actual original text-to-image feature extractor because of the transferability between models, and the surprising thing is how few poisoned samples are required to break a model.