• UnspecificGravity@lemmings.world
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    Not very many people have argued that people who have actually made violent threats and been institutionalized should be buying guns.

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      This guy was a firearms instructor. Literally a good guy with a gun turned into a bad guy with a gun.

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        The key point is that he was also recently institutionalized after making threats and SHOULD have had his guns seized, even under existing law.

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          Agreed, but we haven’t been enforcing red flag laws consistently since people start bitching about “mah rites” whenever you try to disarm someone threatening to kill their ex-GF.

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            Most of these laws, and most of the historic gun control in the US, is really intended to be used to keep guns from the “wrong sort” of people, and that means leftists and brown people generally. Crazy white guys were never the target of any prior firearms legislation or enforcement mechanism. That’s really the core of the problem here.

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      True, but continuing to vote for representatives who refuse to have any conversation about gun control still makes them complicit in this behavior.

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      Someone once told me, be careful of your thoughts for your thoughts may affect your words, be careful of your words because your words may come to become your actions, be careful of your actions for your actions may reflect on your character.

      If you ask me, owning a firearm and making violent threats don’t necessarily mean actions, but I agree that there’s a definitive correlation. I guess that I still believe that the action itself is the most honest and serious commitment to something a person can express.

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        I think the fundamental issues with guns is that they SUBSTANTIALLY shorten the time and effort to put thoughts into action. Thinking “man, i want to kill everyone here.” is a pretty abstract thought, until you actually have the means to kill everyone there right at hand.