An attempted carjacking Saturday night left a 13-year-old dead after a security officer shot him; another boy, 12, is in custody

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      1 year ago

      If somebody is threatening your life for your stuff then they are still threatening your life. Their motive doesn’t change the fact that they are threatening to kill you.

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          Once again the actual intent doesn’t matter because that was only known to them. The only people who knew if they actually had weapons or not were them and you’re going to fault people for believing them when they said they did. They were threatening another persons life (once again no one knew they were faking it except them) that is the only thing that maters in this situation.

          They knowingly made the marshal believe they had weapons, was the marshal just supposed to let themself get shot? There are a lot of things to criticize US police for, but protecting themselves when there is a clear, deliberate, and imminent threat on their lives is not one of them.

          Yes it’s sad that a troubled kid with an underdeveloped brain made a stupid decision and was killed for it. But that doesn’t make it ok to victim blame someone for defending themself from a threat upon their life.

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            pardon me sir, please may I verify the lethality of your weapon before we continue this discourse?

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          If I poke you in your back with a stick and say “do exactly as I say and you might, just might, live through this”

          Are you seriously going to:

          • go “nah bro, I don’t believe you, go home, you’re drunk” or
          • are you going to take me very fucking seriously and not only comply but also try to think really hard and fast about getting out of dodge using any (and I do mean any) means necessary because you reasonably assume I have a loaded gun pressed against your back?

          If you answer the first option, then we stop now, as you’re clearly being dishonest.

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              you won’t believe me

              Correct. I did not.

              I think I’m just pretty dumb

              At least we agree on something

              Cops told me the guy was a simple mugger who had been working the block for about a month, and I should have just given him my wallet, but they also seemed pretty jazzed to have his gun.

              And then everyone clapped

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                  1 year ago

                  Yet again you’ve missed the point. And now you reply with emotion and anger instead of thinking, even for a moment.

                  I can tell you again and again, as others have done. However, sadly I cannot make you understand.

                  For the record, I do not own any weapons. Never have and probably never will.

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      1 year ago

      What about self defense when in a car?

      What about self defense in a box?

      Self defense from a fox?