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This could backfire into something Google don’t want: everyone using adblockers.
Imagine everyone installing adblockers just to skip YouTube’s obnoxious ad rolls, just to also block most Internet ads.
Suddenly, having an adblocker becomes mainstream like wearing socks.
I was curious and latest statistics show 43% of users between 16 and 24 use ad blockers. We’re already at bra level of mainstreamyness.
You guys are wearing socks?!
No, it couldn’t. People who didn’t use adblockers aren’t going to suddenly start using them just because YouTube started blocking adblockers. People who didn’t use adblockers aren’t impacted at all, nothing has changed for them.
Unfortunately, it means they’ll move on pieces they already have in place.
They can disable ad blocking in Chrome entirely, and it probably won’t kill the browser.
The article linked here showed a pattern of people uninstalling ad blockers on Chrome… and then turning around and installing them on Edge.
This YouTube campaign might be one of the best things that ever happened to Edge.
“Go on then, there are other browsers than these” - Jake Chambers in The Gunslinger by Stephen King
I don’t see how? This is targeting people already using ad blockers. People not already using them should not see any difference in service so why would they change their behaviour? At most a mild rise of awareness, though I bet most people following these news stories are also already running ad blockers. It is all the other aggressive shit they are doing with ads that will turn people towards ad blockers/premium.
ublock origion, if anyone needs to know which one to use…
unlock origin
I prefer uBlock Origin myself.
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Adnauseam if you want to add a layer of fuck you on top of it.
It doesn’t say more people overall use ad blockers. It says people that were already using them are now switching between different extensions. Let’s wait and see if this increases Firefox’s market share. This could be the real good outcome of all this.
But people who don’t use adblockers aren’t the target if anti adblock stuff in the first place.
It pushed me more towards degoogling. Was already using newpipe on Android and ignoring the YouTube app, and now I’m on freetube on desktop. No need for Google account anymore to look at the feed I want.
Invidious has been a saviour for me on mobile. The ads were so painfully long. To make it worse, I’d use YouTube to help fall asleep, adjust it to the right volume, then BAM! Loud advert. I didn’t use an ad blocker on PC for ages because I get that bandwidth is expensive as hell, but they really started taking the piss and I gave up.
freetube uses Electron = Chromium ;D
At the moment, I am in a hybrid state. I also use Indivious to watch the videos, but I still use the subscription view of YouTube to see what video is new. I have 145 subscriptions. I installed a new addon Redirector, which you can guess what it does, and it redirects each new tab to an Indivious instance if it’s a YouTube video page. So YouTube thinks I stopped watching videos at the moment. Sometimes I forget to middle click instead and get reminded how bad the ads are.
The reason I am doing that is, because I feared Google could delete my account, if I keep blocking ads with uBlock Origin. It probably never happened to anyone, but the uncertainty was too high to risk for me, as I need this account for other things. Also sometimes I want to like or comment on the video too.
On the off chance you aren’t aware, you can export your YT subs and import them into Invidious via a json file.
I still occasionally visit the actual YouTube frontpahe for the algorithm’s suggestions, but all my subscriptions live on Piped, FreeTube, and on my phone, LibreTube.
I actually wasn’t aware of this possibility. Thanks. That’s probably what I will do soon and stop visiting YouTube altogether.
You can plop a youtube channel URL into an RSS reader and it’s a valid RSS. You don’t need a Google account in that case, but of course Google could just stop supporting RSS at any point.
That’s interesting! I use RSS (and love it) and never tried this on YouTube. You know what, this is actually amazing! Right now I am visiting some channels which I do not want to miss content on and add as RSS News. Thank you for this!
Some users are even going as far as to switch to a new browser.
As someone who changes browsers regularly on a whim, I love how big of a deal this is to the average person.
Yeah, but I’m sure a lot of people just bought youtube premium. I know my friend did…stupid idiot.
I wonder how business owners feel about their advertisements being weaponized to push people toward subscription plans that eliminate advertisements.
Google doesn’t give a shit what their advertisers think. It’s not a “please buy our ads” situation, it’s a “where else would you advertise online, you stupid fuck?” type of situation.
Google reached that position by keeping the platform pleasant till no one else was left standing. That should be an antitrust activity in any free market. Remember this when you see Google gaslighting you about the moral implications of using adblocks.
People that were running ad blockers were not seeing ads and business owners were not paying for those blocked ads. So I don’t see why they would care at all.
True, but people who used to be served one ad per video are now being served 4 or 5, which both lessens the value of each individual ad, and gives more incentive to get rid of them with premium
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I could justify the AU$30 per month for myself and my housemate, but at AU$43, they can GAGTGF.
GAGTGF?
I have no idea what this means, but I feel like it’s probably something I’d like in my back pocket to pull out and throw in someone’s face…kinda like pocket sand.GAGYGF is Go And Get Your Guts F… GAGTGF substitutes “Your” for “Their”. “GagyGoof” does roll off the tongue a bit better than “GagTeeGoof”.
Nice, I definitely will be keeping that in my back pocket
I tried to take a stab at it, but I’m coming up empty.
Go And Get Totally Gang Fucked
Get A Grip To Get Fucked
Give A Gummer Then Get FuckedI just typed about 6 things, not a one made half as much sense as what you had.
I give you an A for affort!
I use Hetzner’s Storage Share (which is a nextcloud instance) as my drive and pay around 5€ / mo for 1 TB. Depending on the features you want you could also use their Storage Box which is more like a plain network drive, and cheaper… like 13€ / mo for 5 TB.
Why not just get the storage box and run the Nextcloud instance with the storage box mounted? Just curious.
You should be able to do that, you’d just need to set up and maintain the Nextcloud instance yourself :)
damn here in Egypt it’s a dollar a month for students or 2 for others. even with the purchasing power difference its a pretty good deal
I’ve had YouTube premium from the inception of their subscription model prior to/at the beginning of YouTube red, as I initially had a paid Google music subscription.
Personally, there isn’t a better option for the amount of hassle involved in my opinion. It’s a family account, and managing so many people’s YouTube experiences on at least a dozen different devices would be a nightmare I don’t want to think about. (Multiple of each TV’s, Roku’s, Android phones, iPhones, pc’s, etc)
This isn’t really relevant to your friend, it is quite silly when it’s just one person not willing to do it for just themselves.
Only reason they are seeing so many uninstalls is because ublock origin is the big one that works and that requires uninstalling other blockers to get it to not be detected.
Ublock origin doesn’t track uninstalls but it has gained quite a few users in the last 8 days
vs
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/ublock-origin/
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Are there any services that provide an alternative to YouTube history? I primarily watch on my Chromecast with Google TV and I haven’t been able to find any
Have you tried Piped? It can be self hosted, but there are also public instances. Features also include Playlists and Feed, probably also History. Maybe you need to create an account for that. Never tried that, because I use it through the Android App LibreTube which also has these features without account.
Thanks. Looks like NewPipe runs on Android TV but isn’t optimized to work with remotes
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I’m shocked I tell you. Shocked! Who could have seen this coming!?
It pushed me to buy grayjay which is allowing me to easily keep up with people off youtube. I just wish that grayjay had a web app.
my problem with grayjay is that it really wants to give me stuff from the trending tab even though it’s supposed to be subscriptions only
Well, well, well, Google. I told you.
This is only 20% of our power. We are not even Super Saiyan yet.And equally, Google is yet to use the big guns they have. Don’t get me wrong, I hate Google with a passion, but they have way too much power over the internet for us to leave even a dent on their plans.
They have a lot of power, but that power is tied by goodwill.
Right now they are cashing in all that goodwill with price increases, more onerous privacy invasion and “sponsored” links in lieu of actually accurate search results.
Google: it’s over 9000!
