Perhaps you’ve noticed. We have reached a tipping point in the country over tipping.

To tip or not to tip has led to Shakespearean soliloquies by customers explaining why they refuse to tip for certain things.

During the height of the COVID-19 pandemic, customers were grateful for those who seemingly risked their safety so we could get groceries, order dinner or anything that made our lives feel normal. A nice tip was the least we could do to show gratitude.

But now that we are out about and back to normal, the custom of tipping for just about everything has somehow remained; and customers are upset.

A new study from Pew Research shows most American adults say tipping is expected in more places than it was five years ago, and there’s no real consensus about how tipping should work.

  • nutsack@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    it’s not your waiter’s fault that they’re stuck in a scam on the scale of a whole culture

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        It is of you decide they can starve over it.

        When sustainable wage ain’t the minimum wage tipping ain’t a reward for good service, it’s the wage earner’s solidarity tax.

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            1 year ago

            It can be multiple people’s fault at once. You’re still the one stiffing them until the law makes their employers pay them fairly, don’t like it, don’t use the services.

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              Tipping is depending on the kindness of strangers. Don’t like it, don’t get a job that requires tips to survive.

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                If you don’t want to tip then don’t ask for the service of tipped workers and get pissy that they ask for a crumb of solidarity while the fight for a living wage remains ongoing.

                Don’t like tipping, go grocery shopping for your food and cook for your own selfish ass self.

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                  Goes both ways. Don’t like it if a person decides not to tip, which is well within their rights? Get a different job rather than continuing to support an industry that’s exploiting your labor even more than most do.

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                    Nah, you’re the cheepo who doesn’t wanna pay the real price for the service they’re getting.

                    People like you are why “but it’ll raise prices!” is viewed as a main argument against living wages.

                    Fuckin’ cheapskate you are, when you catch something when the barista you short changed spits in your drink, remember how bravely and nobly you carried the cross of “fuck you gimme a free burger.”

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          It is of you decide they can starve over it.

          Wanting them to work somewhere with they are paid fairly does not equate to that you have no problem with them starving.

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              No, it doesn’t.

              You can wish the best for them, and want them to have a happy and healthy life, and not tip them when they don’t do anything deserving of a tip.

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                Deserve ain’t the metric when they’re being paid below a living wage.

                You’re arguing they should provide five star service and suck your dick to “deserve” not needing to choose between heating and electricity that month.

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                  Deserve ain’t the metric when they’re being paid below a living wage.

                  The two are not connected though either.

                  You’re arguing they should provide five star service and suck your dick to “deserve” not needing to choose between heating and electricity that month.

                  No, I’m not. Please don’t put words in my mouth, especially emotionally hyperbolic ones.

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                    Nah, when you’re saying you don’t have to tip in these times that’s exactly what you’re saying fuckin’ moocher.

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          A waiter isn’t going to starve because I didn’t tip them.

          gtfo with that solidarity tax bullshit lol

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        In some states, like mine, someone working for tips is not getting paid minimum wage. So if you don’t tip the waiter, then they could be worse off than a cashier at 7-11 who makes minimum wage.

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            Ideally yes. There are laws, sure. However, in the real world, it doesn’t work that way. In my state, there is a different minimum wage for tipped workers. Back when it affected me personally, it was $2.85 when the minimum wage was $7.25. Now it’s like $10 and $14.

            And yes, if the tipped employee doesn’t meet a minimum wage then the employer is supposed to make that up. How often that happens though, I’ve never seen it. And what is an underpaid employee supposed to do? Sue a chain restaurant with all the money they don’t have? Get a pro bono lawyer willing to waste months of their time to help recover the difference of like $300?

            I get the altruism, and the simple satisfaction from pointing to laws to try to disprove a person who experienced things in real life. But at some point in your life, you should learn that the real world doesn’t work by pointing to a rule book and crying foul when someone breaks the rules.

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      My waiter probably prefers tipping culture because they make a hell of a lot more than they would otherwise. If not, it’s their fault they chose their job.

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        1 year ago

        they might, but not every waiter gets rewarded with a “good shift”. the system is bad.

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          But not every shift is a bad shift. That’s why tipped staff wants to stay tipped staff.

          If every shift is a bad shift, they should reconsider their job