UPDATE: I found this issue explaining the relicensing of rust game engine Bevy to MIT + Apache 2.0 dual. Tldr: A lot of rust projects are MIT/Apache 2.0 so using those licenses is good for interoperability and upstreaming. MIT is known and trusted and had great success in projects like Godot.
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RedoxOS, uutils, zoxide, eza, ripgrep, fd, iced, orbtk,…
It really stands out considering that in FOSS software the GPL or at least the LGPL for toolkits is the most popular license
Most of the programs I listed are replacements for stuff we have in the Linux ecosystem, which are all licensed under the (L)GPL:
uutils, zoxide, eza, ripgrep, fd -> GNU coreutils (GPL)
iced, orbtk -> GTK, QT (LGPL)
RedoxOS -> Linux kernel, most desktop environments like GNOME, KDE etc. all licensed GPL as much as possible
The newer FOSS projects have a preference for permissive licenses like MIT. That’s due to a narrative going around that copyleft licenses like GPL are somehow ‘less free’. Apparently, GPL etc are not free enough that companies avoid such projects. And if you want your project to be adopted, you have to avoid these licenses. You can easily guess who is behind such narratives and why.
GPL is basically a contract that code will always be shared if distributed. This licence ensure any distributed library will give your code (legal standpoint).
MIT is more a use as you want licence. Devs can take the code, build and distribute binaries without restrictions.
They are not made for the same reasons. If you want to write Libre software, GPL is your friend.
As other says, rust build statically by default, having a MIT ecosystem help to spread the langage. Yet, this also mean someone can see its code used in a commercial product without sharing back, credits or counterpart.
Different uses.
I have never heard anyone claim that GPL or LGPL are the most popular licenses for tools. From what I’ve seen it’s the opposite. MIT is by far the most popular by an insane margin. So much so that when I see an lgpl license I’m surprised.
for tools
For GNU/Linux tools?
Most of the rust projects I listed are replacements for stuff in the Linux ecosystem which are licensed (L)GPL. The most popular toolkits by far are GTK and QT, both LGPL
Something being “the most popular” doesn’t make it the right license for everything. FOSS uses the GPL if it makes sense and often when it doesn’t but its not an end all be all for FOSS and its needs.
It is, though. GPL forces all code using a GPL-licensed project to also be GPL-licensed. MIT is a cuck license allowing corporations to use your code for free without anything in return, the entire text of the MIT license could be replaced with “pls steal my code harder, daddy big corporation”.
A “cuck” license? I have 0 interest in engaging in any meaningful conversation around “we live in a society and rigidity of value measurement cannot be without context” because thats childish at best and a dog whistle of the anti-intellectual at worst.
I’m using cuck in the literal sense, not the MAGA fascist sense. Your code, someone else’s profit. GPL or bust. If corporations want to use the features of a FOSS project without contributing their changes, they can fuck off and rewrite it from scratch.
That doesn’t explain the preference for MIT tho
Preference for MIT and Apache is part of the culture of rust. Also, the lead dev behind Redox has mentioned that he chose MIT over GPL because it makes it easier to contribute, which he felt was important for getting Redox off the ground.
Probably because rust links statically by default, so making a library gpl means users will be forced to make their project GPL too, so MIT libraries have an incredible advantage.
IANAL though, so idk.
That’s what the LGPL is for, the library itself has to stay open source but the program using it does not have to be. So no advantage for MIT
The text of the LGPL actually imposes some very inconvenient restrictions around static linking:
Convey the Minimal Corresponding Source under the terms of this License, and the Corresponding Application Code in a form suitable for, and under terms that permit, the user to recombine or relink the Application with a modified version of the Linked Version to produce a modified Combined Work, in the manner specified by section 6 of the GNU GPL for conveying Corresponding Source.
https://www.gnu.org/licenses/lgpl-3.0.html#section4
In order to be compliant, you would have to also ship linkable object files of the proprietary application code alongside the executable.
so making a library gpl means users will be forced to make their project GPL too
So GPL libraries have an incredible advantage.
GPL libraries have an advantage in their legal power. MIT libraries have an advantage when users have to choose between 2 libraries.
All other things being equal, users will use more permissive libraries. So unless maintainers put more effort into the GPL, a MIT one will gather more users, which attracts more maintainers, which ends up in more MIT libraries than GPL ones existing.
LGPL specifically does as far as I understand have some issues when used in rust. In particular the border for the copyleft is dynamic linking. That doesn’t work well with rust. I would instead consider MPL where the copyleft border is on a source file level.
That said, I’m not a lawyer!
It’s a conspiracy too big that I don’t think anyone of us can really understand or grasp the scale of it all.
Thankfully, the EU was aware and prepared. And the EUPL is ready to usurp whatever project license, whenever needed.
The GNU project emerged from academics, which don’t get paid for their software in general, they get paid for writing papers about it. So, they want to stop all commercial use of their software.
The Rust project emerged from the startup culture, where everything is just a stepping stone to eventually get sold in some kind of software project to get rich. So, being able to use the software in a commercial setting is essential.
What’s your source for this “startup culture”? Rust started at Mozilla to make the browser more secure
