Season 1s are great, setup, some payoff, a bit of lead into the overarching story. Then season 2 to X. The heroes win and then lose in the final episode, cliffhanger to next season. People get bored. Final season is announced and they wrap up the show.

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    It can certainly seem that way sometimes. Shows like The Handmaid’s Tale have been circling the drain of their own premise for a few years now. A big part of it, I think, is that they want to keep their main cast for as long as possible, which limits the options of what can happen.

    Give me a mini-series, or even an anthology series, any day.

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      I love the limited scope of British TV series. They even managed to do only a few seasons of Law & Order, for crying out loud.

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        It’s not a creative or artistic choice; British channels simply have minuscule budgets compared to their American counterparts.

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            Couldn’t agree more. The final season was such nonsense it soured the whole show and I’ve never bothered to watch it through again (ignoring the incessant “tell not show” with being told how brilliant Sherlock is but never really showing that, and how the mysteries were never deductible by the audience).

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          I think it’s for the best. Too much money in the US is spent on bullshit.

          In any case, US versions of British series are almost certainly worse.

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            Look at Black Mirror. The British seasons are some of the best TV ever made. The American (Netflix) seasons have often been meh or downright awful, and derivative of the original seasons.

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      I still don’t get why so many were relating handmaids tale to real life. Just as annoying as those who think everything is 1984. Its a YA series, and not a particularly great one at that.

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        Do you really not see the parallels to real life of a religiously-ruled country who has enshrined in law ways to take control of fertile women’s reproductive rights? Really?

        The US is becoming more and more Giléad with every passing day.

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          I don’t see anyone taking away rights of women, and America is secular.

          You can draw parallels between anything, thats not really pertinent.

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    I like the idea that a lot of series are repeating Act II over and over. I had never thought of it that way, but it makes a lot of sense.

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    Some shows do a better job than others of having a satisfying arc in every episode. The Boys comes to mind in the sense that every single episode has a cool, self-contained story that gets resolved by the end of the episode, as well as an overarching story that spans the season.

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      Funnily enough, The Boys came to my mind as a negative example. It feels like every season hints at big things coming, but then the finale just kinda resets everything without those big things actually happening. And then the next season starts with them having to get the gang back together again.

      I largely enjoyed the most recent season but the finale killed any excitement I might have had for the next season. The finale really avoided resolving anything at all, and basically undid as much as it was possible to undo.

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        See also The Walking Dead.

        1. That looks a nice place to live.
        2. Yep, this is pretty great.
        3. Oh no, we’re stupid!
        4. Go to step 1.
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        I agree with your assessment of the most recent season finale, but I would say in general every season has done a good job of having something cool happen in every episode. Like in the sense that each episode has a complete narrative arc. That’s not to say that the whole show doesn’t tease you a bit, but the individual episodes still have satisfying stories.

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    Ultimately, the primary satisfaction of storytelling comes from the story ending.

    You can do that episode to episode, season to season, etc. I feel like the best shows balance by having plot archs and character archs that can happen independently of each other. That way each episode or two can close one kind of arch while opening another. Because they are different kinds of problems, they’re less likely to conflict, giving you the sense of closure you crave while also creating a sort of cliffhanger.

    That’s really hard to do well though, especially over time. And usually expensive.

    A lot of shows start with 2-3 seasons of concepts in mind, and hope to get picked up for more. At that point it gets exponentially harder to go on without detracting from what you’ve already built.

    I’m glad that most streaming platforms are starting to see value in shows with a fixed ending in mind, it just makes for better storytelling.

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    A lot of shows tend to lose steam around seasons four and five or so. Actors and actresses come and go and writers struggle to find new ideas so storylines get recycled and repackaged. Breaking Bad handled this perfectly by willing ending after 5 seasons.

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      @beefbaby182

      @delitomatoes

      It sucks when a show is spinning it’s wheels and a significant actor moves on to greener pastures, but you get it. It really sucks when a show rockets off and actors leave because the show has made them into a star who get offered bigger projects to capitalize on their fame. Mucking things up for the thing that made you famous is such BS.

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    I suppose it’s the natural result of wanting to keep the show on as long as possible, when you’ve only got one good idea for the story arc. You need a lot of filler.

    I’d like to see more shows done in the style of Babylon 5, where the creator had the whole 5 years written out from day 1. There was very little in the show that felt like filler or treading water.

    Which also may explain why books are being brought to TV more frequently these days. But, TV showrunners have a bad habit of taking a good novel and totally mangling it in the translation to TV, so it’s not a guaranteed win.

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    I’m confused by your question.

    Is your objection cliffhanger endings? Those are more common in American media. Or is it lack of plot progression, which is common across all media? Even shows famous for moving the plot forward never stray too far from the start.