As a student who has never been allowed to discharge his student loan debts…
Why the fuck aren’t there laws in place for specifically shit like this, when rich people turn to bankruptcy to avoid paying bills? My student loans can’t be discharged in bankruptcy, but this kind of shit can?
Fuck that shit, bring back debtors prison for rich assholes like this.
The judgment isn’t dischargeable. Hecan say bankruptcy but they’ll freeze and put a lein on everything he owns. He’s super fucked.
He’s not super fucked yet though. He’ll just pull an Alex Jones and stall as long as possible while still living the same life.
Alex Jones had a lot of people helping him hide his money, so it’s tangled up a lot more than with Giuliani. Also, Giuliani is under a hell of a lot more scrutiny than Alex Jones was or is. And the judges in Jones’s case didn’t seem to be moving as quickly as with Giuliani, who also only has the single case and single judge. I seriously doubt that Giuliani will be able to stall like Jones has been able to. I think it’s fair to say that Giuliani is far more fucked than Jones at this point.
And make no mistake. AJ will pay his dues.
Any. Day. Now…
It’s only been (*checks watch) seven years since Alex Jones first defamed them, and he’s whittled down the payment from $1.1 billion to $85 million…
Any day now, indeed.
And now he’s saying 55 million
Ah, but he didn’t just say bankruptcy. He declared it.
It can’t be. He’s going to be on the hook for the rest of his life.
There are specific laws, it’s called the bankruptcy code.
Technically a lot of student loans are dischargeable 5 years into repayment.
And strangely enough those kind of guy live in a million $$$ mansion or condo and spend $50’000/month on frivolities, even in bankruptcy
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However it was designed, it shouldn’t be allowed to be abused by rich fucks not giving up their millionaire lifestyle while continuing to rack up additional debt/judgements. You know these assholes are proponents of limiting what people can use welfare for (no steak or other “luxury” food styled arguments). Perhaps he should be limited to what a person on welfare is able to afford? You want to continue to pull in an income for “speeches” or whatever bullshit these grifters do for money? All but the bare minimum get frozen by the court until judgements are settled.
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You’ll have to specify you don’t support it when describing it in a way that can be confused as a defense for it if you really want to avoid it. Saying, “nah it doesn’t work like that.” is very, very easy to take as an adversarial statement.
It doesn’t imply defense, but it can come across as a defensive posture. Poe’s Law kinda’ sucks to deal with. It’s one of many reasons good speech writers are kept around. It’s not just about having correct English or making logically correct statements.
They were being neither parodic nor sarcastic so Poe’s law really doesn’t apply.
I also disagree that they have to specify they don’t support it. The comment is a statement of fact, a readers assumptions about the stance of the writer speaks to the readers bias, not the writers.
Yes, notice how I said, “…if you want to avoid it.”
It wasn’t an appeal for making correct statements. It was an appeal to hedge communication, which is always intelligent to do with a general audience. Most people do not think like a computer. You HAVE to communicate with that in mind to effectively communicate.
Yes, it’s a problem with stupid people, but if you want stupid people to understand you, you better get used to it.
shoots the messenger
I think you are falling into the social media trap that every comment has to be a back and forth, or a disagreement. When you describe the existing system, if someone disagrees with it, it’s not a disagreement with you. When you let that go and realize you don’t need to reply, it’s a weight lifted.
Keep informing and more people learn.
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No it’s not.
Exactly. You shouldn’t come out of bankruptcy homeless, but you should absolutely be stripped of all but your smallest house and all trusts in your name.
Your smallest house? How about sell everything and start renting an apartment like every working person?
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Except for student loans of course. Nothing but the sweet sweet release of death can discharge that debt.
Not even that; IIRC your family can inherit your student loan debt if you die.
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It depends on the state I’ve recently learned. Some states allow inheriting debt, others don’t. Even some are in between allowing it for spouses only.
This isn’t in the case of something “unwanted”. You can decline to assume a debt from inheritance. You would also be giving up anything tied to it like a house or car. In the case of a dead loved one’s higher education, there’s no reason to assume the debt. You don’t get the education if you do.
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This isn’t true. In fact, I told my wife that I’d come back and haunt her if she paid a penny towards my student loans if I died.
But it doesn’t matter any more, I was able to get my student loan debt finally discharged earlier this year. All it took was sending $450 to my loan carrier every month for 20 years, and then they told me I didn’t need to send any more. Thanks Biden!
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Important to note that damages debts for intentional torts are not dischargeable in bankruptcy. Rudy is still on the hook.
Good.
Holy shit hasn’t even paid his taxes for three years.
Fuck this guy, if I don’t pay my taxes for one year I get love letters from the IRS.
Just a PSA for any that might find it useful: Talk to the IRS if you have any issues like this (not filing, under-withholding, etc.)! I know someone that had thousands of dollars in fees waived by simply writing a letter (like 3 sentences). Basically got a response that said “All these fees are waived. Just don’t do it again.”
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I know I’m just a random internet stranger, but I’m proud of you for sending that email. I say this as someone who has experienced similar magic in the past, but more significantly, am currently bogged down with many similar problems that are quite solvable in practice. Taking that first step when you’re so overwhelmed you just want to hide from everything is hard
Scummy? Yes. Predictable? Also yes.
Fun. Now do Trump.
If student loans don’t get discharged by bankrupcy, why TF should any of his debts?
It won’t.
The former mayor’s decision to pursue bankruptcy protection temporarily stalls the effort to collect his $148 million defamation judgment, according to Georgetown Law School professor Adam Levitin.
This is a delaying tactic by the shitstain. But generally court judgements can’t be discharged through bankruptcy.
It’s literally been well over a year since Jones and his companies went through bankruptcy, and only recently are we getting a ruling that he can’t use that to avoid paying them out.
He’s literally bargained it down to $85 million and he’s been non-stop still a giant piece of shit peddling conspiracy and hate the entire time.
No, these motherfuckers need to be stopped in their fucking tracks.
Stop giving me this “the system moves slowly bullshit” because I’ve been arrested on bullshit charges. If you’re just some schmuck with no money it moves fast as living fuck. The entire god damned justice system was built and predicated on the person with the most money can stall the longest. It’s not fair to hand out endless appeals only to people who can fucking afford them and tell everyone else to go fuck themselves because they can’t afford a lawyer.
The system is and always has been fucking broken and we should be fucking rioting over it instead of papering over the cracks talking like “there will be justice any day now!”
Jones first defamed the Sandy Hook families in April 2017. We’re about to be entering 2024. Seven fucking years doesn’t seem like it has affected him much at all.
He’s trying to get his assets locked by the bankruptcy trial so they can’t be sold off to pay his debt to the Georgia poll workers.
Especially since he probably has plenty in cash stashed domestically and abroad.
He’s already committing fraud and hiding assets. Convert him to 7 and scorch the earth.
