• DarkNightoftheSoul@mander.xyz
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    10 months ago

    These the guys that notoriously violated emissions standards and created software to hide the fact from testers? Some pretty spectacular claims you got there. Would be a shame if someone… doubted your reputation.

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      10 months ago

      And let’s not forget that they had to create Electrify America which they treat like a red headed step child. They are really invested in EVs. /s

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      10 months ago

      Every car maker did, VW took the blame but the whole industry was lying

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            Here’s the summary for the wikipedia article you mentioned in your comment:

            ` From 2014 onwards, software which manipulated air pollution tests was discovered in vehicles from some car makers; the software recognized when the standardized emissions test was being done, and adjusted the engine to emit less during the test. The cars emitted much higher levels of pollution under real-world driving conditions. Some cars’ emissions were higher even though there was no manipulated software. Scandals relating to higher-than-reported emissions from diesel engines began in 2014 when the International Council on Clean Transportation (ICCT) reported discrepancies between European and US models of vehicles. This began with the Volkswagen emissions scandal. Independent tests carried out by the German car club ADAC proved that, under normal driving conditions, diesel vehicles including the Volvo S60, Renault’s Espace Energy and the Jeep Renegade, exceeded legal European emission limits for nitrogen oxide (NOx) by more than 10 times. ICCT and ADAC showed the biggest deviations from Volvo, Renault, Jeep, Hyundai, Citroën and Fiat.Researchers have criticized the inadequacy of current regulations and called for the use of a UN-sanctioned test called Worldwide harmonized Light vehicles Test Procedures that better reflects real-life driving conditions. The test only came into force in 2017, with critics saying that car firms lobbied fiercely to delay its implementation due to the high cost of meeting stricter environmental controls.Conservative Internal Market spokesman Daniel Dalton – who led the legislation through the European Parliament – described the previous regulations as “at best patchy and at worst ineffective.” He further said that his latest 2018 report introduced a strong, transparent system to ensure cars are safe and meet emissions standards.

            Since 2016, 38 out of 40 diesel cars tested by ADAC failed a NOx-test. `

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      10 months ago

      Did those guys not get fired?

      Oh dang, apologies to the hive mind. Volkswagen bad, evil employees, actively attempting to destroy the earth, cannot be deterred or corrected. We good now?

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        Do you really think the people in charge and responsible for that decision are the ones who got fired? Do you really think that’s how accountability works in giant mega corporations?

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          Yeah, I actually went and looked it up and found that many of the executives responsible resigned or got fired, and some went to prison, but let’s not let that interrupt our circle jerk.

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            10 months ago

            So some of them broke the law and just resigned or were fired, only a few were jailed?

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                10 months ago

                You’re not wrong, I’d forgotten the first comment said fired, stupid of me.

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                Here’s the summary for the wikipedia article you mentioned in your comment:

                Oliver Schmidt (born January 9, 1969) is a German engineer, former senior executive for Volkswagen in Germany and the United States as well as a convicted felon. In December 2017, Schmidt was sentenced to 84 months (7 years) in federal prison for his role in the Volkswagen emissions scandal. He was the second German national, after James Robert Liang, to be convicted and sees himself as pawn sacrifice in the entire case.

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        Not only that, a lot of the board ended up in prison, which didn’t happen for the other automakers that also had illegally high emissions (all of them).

        VW was pretty much the only automaker who got held accountable for their crimes, and took the wrap for everyone both in terms of the law and public opinion.

        Some others broke emissions standards by a much greater amount (cough, FIAT-Chrysler cough Toyota cough Hyundai/KIA).