The White House wants to ‘cryptographically verify’ videos of Joe Biden so viewers don’t mistake them for AI deepfakes::Biden’s AI advisor Ben Buchanan said a method of clearly verifying White House releases is “in the works.”

  • DrCake@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    Yeah good luck getting to general public to understand what “cryptographically verified” videos mean

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      10 months ago

      The general public doesn’t have to understand anything about how it works as long as they get a clear “verified by …” statement in the UI.

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        10 months ago

        The problem is that even if you reveal the video as fake,the feeling it reinforces on the viewer stays with them.

        “Sure that was fake,but the fake that it seems believable tells you everything you need to know”

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          10 months ago

          “Herd immunity” comes into play here. If those people keep getting dismissed by most other people because the video isn’t signed they’ll give up and follow the crowd. Culture is incredibly powerful.

    • BradleyUffner@lemmy.world
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      10 months ago

      It could work the same way the padlock icon worked for SSL sites in browsers back in the day. The video player checks the signature and displays the trusted icon.

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      10 months ago

      Democrats will want cryptographically verified videos, Republicans will be happy with a stamp that has trumps face on it.

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      10 months ago

      “Not everybody will use it and it’s not 100% perfect so let’s not try”

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        10 months ago

        That’s not the point. It’s that malicious actors could easily exploit that lack of knowledge to trick users into giving fake videos more credibility.

        If I were a malicious actor, I’d put the words “✅ Verified cryptographically by the White House” at the bottom of my posts and you can probably understand that the people most vulnerable to misinformation would probably believe it.

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      10 months ago

      Just make it a law that if as a social media company you allow unverified videos to be posted, you don’t get safe harbour protections from libel suits for that. It would clear right up. As long as the source of trust is independent of the government or even big business, it would work and be trustworthy.

      • General_Effort@lemmy.world
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        10 months ago

        Back in the day, many rulers allowed only licensed individuals to operate printing presses. It was sometimes even required that an official should read and sign off on any text before it was allowed to be printed.

        Freedom of the press originally means that exactly this is not done.

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          10 months ago

          Jesus, how did I get so old only to just now understand that press is not journalism, but literally the printing press in ‘Freedom of the press’.

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          10 months ago

          You understand that there is a difference between being not permitted to produce/distribute material and being accountable for libel, yes?

          “Freedom of the press” doesn’t mean they should be able to print damaging falsehood without repercussion.

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            10 months ago

            What makes the original comment legally problematic (IMHO), is that it is expected and intended to have a chilling effect pre-publication. Effectively, it would end internet anonymity.

            It’s not necessarily unconstitutional. I would have made the argument if I thought so. The point is rather that history teaches us that close control of publications is a terrible mistake.

            The original comment wants to make sure that there is always someone who can be sued/punished, with obvious consequences for regime critics, whistleblowers, and the like.

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              We need to take history into account but I think we’d be foolish to not acknowledge the world has indeed changed.

              Freedom of the press never meant that any old person could just spawn a million press shops and pedal whatever they wanted. At best the rich could, and nobody was anonymous for long at that kind of scale.

              Personally I’m for publishing via proxy (i.e. an anonymous tip that a known publisher/person is responsible for) … I’m not crazy about “anybody can write anything on any political topic and nobody can hold them accountable offline.”

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              10 months ago

              So your suggestion is that libel, defamation, harassment, et al are just automatically dismissed when using online anonymous platforms? We can’t hold the platform responsible, and we can’t identify the actual offender, so whoops, no culpability?

              I strongly disagree.

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                  10 months ago

                  I am not. And if that’s not what’s implied by their comments then I legitimately have no idea what they’re suggesting and would appreciate an explanation.

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        10 months ago

        As long as the source of trust is independent of the government or even big business, it would work and be trustworthy

        That sounds like wishful thinking