If you can, use Firefox.

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    Chrome got blacklisted by our IT dept because of this.

    “Ads are attack vectors.”

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      Chrome hasn’t worked for months on our network due to this and was removed recently with the latest updates last week

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      And mine is making the switch from Firefox to Chrome next year. I’m so fucking mad about it.

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        Ditto. The security department made the push because too many people were installing unapproved addons like ublock. They are mandating chrome, “for security”. LMAO

        The irony is that people are signing into chrome with personal gmail and leaking stuff.

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          You can lockdown user addons in both chrome and firefox via GPO. You can also auto install them with the same policies if you like. Both browsers have enterpise admx files available.

          Your security department sounds like they are bad at their jobs.

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            Came here to say the exact same thing. It really is amazing to me just how many IT professionals are bad at their jobs.

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              Tech is a boogie man to many executypes. I’ve seen plenty of IT pros that were in over their head but smooth enough con men. If they keep coming up with things to throw money at/trim money out of convincingly they have long and successful careers.

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                When I lost my job over the summer I put my resume on dice and immediately had 3-4 guys with Indian accents calling me every day. I found a new job within a week. I still get emails and texts though, can’t put the genie back in the bottle

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          uBlock Origin is pretty much approved by Mozilla and ads are a big attack vector while Chrome is spyware.

          If they use Windows, you can use Firefox Portable of PortableApps.

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          Not sure, it’s a big corpo so the decision is far from me. Probably bribes or a C level exec that likes Chrome on his home laptop.

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        Switch to Edge would make sense due to how well it integrates with things like your Entra ID account, choosing Chrome now is bizarre. We also had Chrome as primary browser for years, but now we are pushing Edge as primary browser. Firefox was and still is an option for us as well.

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      Waiting to hear if my company follows suit. Most of our internal tools are built with Chrome in mind, so it would be a big effort to standardize on something else.

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        Chrome is pretty much the defacto standard for web. If it works with chrome, you’re probably safe.

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      Meanwhile my work mandates that we must use Edge. It’s fine from a usability perspective but I would much prefer my beloved Firefox at work, especially with the tab groups they have where you can have multiple different sessions

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        I’ve been using Edge at work. I literally made the decision as “this is a Microsoft heavy shop, Microsoft is pushing Edge hard, and Bing is kinda good now, so let’s see how this goes” and I haven’t had a need to switch back.

        I use Edge’s different profiles for testing, work stuff and personal stuff to keep them nicely separated and prevent any from bleeding too hard into eachother

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    Switching away from Chrome is something that is always worth repeating, but just FYI this happened last September and isn’t “new”. If you’re on Chrome and are only just now realizing this, it’s been your reality for the last 5 months.

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        Yeah Google has cleverly re-defined privacy as “give all your data to us and we will protect it from prying eyes”.

        People love it though. So private and easy and awesome for scrolling.

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    The Federated Learning of Cohorts and now the Topics API are part of a plan to pitch an “alternative” tracking platform, and Google argues that there has to be a tracking alternative—you can’t just not be spied on.

    lmao what the fuck kind of dystopia are we living in

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      It’d make the world a better place, but a big company would make slightly less money, therefore it’s unthinkable to even attempt it.

      See also: vehicle emissions standards

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        In the case of Google, the effect on advertising bringing in “slightly less money” is an understatement :)

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      So this means that the internet could have always worked fine without invasive cookies and everything they told us about it being impossible was just a lie.

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    “Did any user in the world want a user-tracking and ad platform baked directly into their browser? Probably not, but this is Google, and they control Chrome, and this probably still won’t make people switch to Firefox.”

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      Their idea is that is hides all the user info from advertising companies. Downside is your browser is an ad slot machine.

      Which is best?

      Tracked or ad machine?

      I’m more surprised people aren’t talking about the fact that since it’s running on the client side, someone would just figure out a way to hack and block all the ads even easier.

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        Because the entire design of it is to mathematically prevent you from having the option to hack or block the ads. THe way to get around it is to… not use chrome.

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        It hides user information from companies which aren’t Google. The best is not using anything Chromium based.

        Extensions require APIs from the browser to work, and Google is going to nerf the APIs which allow for ad blocking. Extensions don’t have unfettered access to the DOM. FF used to be like that, but Chrome never allowed that.

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      You’re thinking about it the wrong way. How does this directly and noticably harm the user experience of the average user of chrome? If it doesn’t then there’s no incentive for them to switch.

      Not everyone knows about this kind of thing or cares. Firefox has to be significantly better in obvious ways and market that to grow their market share.

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      I wish I could stick to Firefox but I’ve been having trouble with looping captchas on there. 90% of the time Firefox works fine but there’s still a handful of websites that just refuse to work unless I’m using chrome.

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        Some websites intentionally change behavior based on your user agent. There are plenty of extensions for Firefox that let you change it so sites think you’re using chrome instead. It’s wild to me that’s even a thing, but ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

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    Does this only affect Chrome or all Chromium based browsers? Are Brave and Edge going to be implementing this too?

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      Just Chrome in this instance, as it spies for Google. Any anti ad blocking features go though to all chromium based browsers and it is better to switch Firefox. If that browser disappears we won’t have a good alternative anymore.

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        It is better to switch to Firefox. But chromium forks can generally do whatever they want, it’s just a matter of maintenance burden. e.g. nothing is stopping a Chromium fork like Brave from running a manifest v2 compatible appstore, but it’ll cost money to make, maintain, and operate, plus you have less discoverability as an app developer when using a smaller app store.

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      Lemmy pushes hard for Firefox, but Vivaldi has not implemented this and will likely hold out as long as possible on it.

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      Supporting Chromium is to support Google’s control on the web. You choose.

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    All google products are spyware. Although technically they should be called “trackingware”.

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      I used to use the good browser. But then they changed what the good browser was. Now what I’m with isn’t it, and what’s it seems weird and scary to me.

      ITLL HAPPEN TO YOU

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      Mozilla Phoenix user here. Good old times. Then Firebird came along. Then Firefox… What an odd name change that was, IMO. Firefox. Huh.

      Then Chrome came and I jumped on that ship for years until the new revamped Firefox came in 2018, and as it looks nowadays, I won’t ever leave Firefox until it dies of death.

      Chrome has a pretty sleek design these days, but my conscience tells me I can’t use it.

      I use Chromium for web development (testing purposes only), but I’m not sure if Chromium is any better. At least I’m not signed in to it.

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        They ditched Phoenix because the bios manufacturer had that copy right. There’s a whole story behind it.

        Firefox in China is also known as a red panda

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          Ah, so that’s the reason. I never bothered to find out. Thanks! Only 20 years later or so 😅

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            Lol I only found out about a month ago. So I’m in the same boat.

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    Duck duck go has become a pretty good viable alternative to google using it full time now.

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      I’ve been using it as my main search engine for around a year now. I accidentally used google today to look up “best screwdriver sets” and the results were all ads instead of results with screwdriver set reviews. I put the same thing in DuckDuckGo and immediately got relevant results.

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        Googled the pirate bay and it wouldnt.

        Unless the first link after a link to the wiki, www. piratebayorg.org is the correct place to go…

        Duckduckgo first result was the correct result

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            Have you tried open street map? The geography nerds building that have a surprisingly up to date and high quality map of the rural midwestern region I live in so you might be pleasantly surprised

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        Maps

        Which is getting worse now too.
        It now searches “related” locations to what you searched for to show you more bought ads for locations instead of what you looked for originally. Get ready for the slow crawl of enshitification of maps now too.

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        Their maps are pretty bad, there are better alternatives although it can depend on your region. Navigation and POI search wise though they still seem the best to me.

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        Interest of avoiding Google’s ad platform which is arguably more invasive you should use a browser in search engine that is not developed by Google thus use duck duck go. I mean it’s at least tangentially related.

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    It’s also already built into Google Play Services. Remember this when they claim a monopoly is good for “security” reasons.

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      Amazing how Google and Apple differ on so much, but in this respect they are in total agreement…

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    I’m totally unable to switch from chrome, the chrome icon is really the only one that works, all others are just too hard to see

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    next up: every page requires shitty chrome or login with google.

    then the big shrug and all continue using chrome, iphone, amazon and the other evils.

    if you are using any of the above YOU are the problem.

    thoughts and prayers. wasch mich, aber mach mich nicht nass.