Was just talking at dinner with family, and it seems a logical action to ban circumcision, as in most cases, doesn’t have consent, and is a major (genitals are important) body modification. Can we ban it at the state level? Just a thought.

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    Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you a persons who is refusing to admit.

    Thanks for demonstrating my point so effectively.

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      What? They’re not bothered by it how the fuck is that refusing to admit anything? Does that mean if two people get jumped scared in a dark room and one for the rest of their life needs a light on in their room and the other doesn’t that they are secretly traumatized? No it doesn’t.

      Also circumcision happens at birth most of the time so many people (myself included) don’t remember it. It should absolutely be illegal but as the other person said don’t tell someone what traumas they faced and how they should be effected.

      You’re a clown

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        so many people (myself included) don’t remember it.

        "She doesn’t remember being raped, so it’s ok’.

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        Also circumcision happens at birth most of the time so many people (myself included) don’t remember it. It should absolutely be illegal but as the other person said don’t tell someone what traumas they faced and how they should be effected.

        Just because you don’t remember it, doesn’t mean it doesn’t effect you. Aside from the obvious physical effects, there are studies that suggest that neonatal stressors and pain (such as say amputating part of the baby’s genitals) can have long reaching psychological effects. For example:

        https://www.scirp.org/journal/paperinformation?paperid=55727

        https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7702013/

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      Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you the problem with the anti-circumcision movement.

      There are good arguments to be had for banning circumcision. Refusing to recognize my autonomy, and insisting you know the “secret trauma of strangers” better than they do is not one of them. It makes you sound like an asshole who doesn’t know what they are talking about and will cause people to think the whole movement is the same way.

      For those arguing to ban circumcision: you need to purge assholes like this from your numbers. They are only doing harm and not helping your cause.

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        Refusing to recognize my autonomy

        Glad that, as an infant, you exercised your own autonomy, when your parents decided to circumcise you.

        If you did exercise your own autonomy as an adult, then fine. That’s not what we’re talking about.

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          Your autonomy argument doesn’t work when you refuse to recognize my statements that I am not bothered by the fact that it happened to me. It makes you a blatant hypocrite when you say you are concerned about the autonomy of children but ignore my autonomy as an adult.

          Children do in fact need someone to speak for them. When you insist on speaking for me when I am fully capable of speaking for myself and telling you not to, then I’m going to tell you to fuck off and won’t be very receptive to anything else you have to say.