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I’m currently running a Synology Notestation with around 8 clients and while it mostly works, sometimes images don’t load correctly(or doesn’t at all) and has failed on me one too many times.
I’m looking for another notes app similar to DS notes.
1- Rich Text Editor 2- Self hosted 3- Has multiple users enabled 4- Native Android app
Nice to have: 1- offline mode 2- FOSS 3- Has an active community
I host files for my entire family and they rely on notes for all their important documents. So it has to be simple to use.
I have tried benotes, but not having a Native Android app makes it hard for normies to use it. I also tried Joplin, but it’s single user only.
Thank you for the suggestions.
Joplin can be a multi-user solution as well. I use Joplin with Nextcloud. If you don’t want to share notes just use Joplin and every user can use the same nextcloud instance, but different user accounts, to save their notes. If you want to share all the notes, all the users can synchronise with the same Nextcloud user. You can make different notebooks for different users. All the users, however, can see and edit notes. Joplin cannot be a solution if you want to share some notes. It is either all, or none.
Logseq can be another solution, with the same technique. However, you can use
gitto synchronise different databases, where one database is used in shared notes and personal databases for non-shared notes. I host my own Gitea (will soon shift to forgejo) to synchronise my Logseq databases.📝 Sharing only one vor a few #notes is possible with #JoplinCloud or selfhosting with #JoplinServer 🤓👌
Just set up a Joplin cloud server for me and my buddy to do a writing project. It’s the most robust open source solution I could find for the situation and so far it is meeting every expectation.
Thats great news, i’ve been using joplin for years without knowing about Joplin server
Obsidian.md hands down if you can transition to markdown instead of rich text. Lets users have wiki style hyperlinks to notes.
Obsidian is one of those applications I sooo want to install because everyone loves it, but to me if I’m going through the pain of selfhosting I want to go FOSS only. Argh!
The thing I most appreciate about Obsidian is, for now at least, they at least partially embrace a sort of FOSS mindset in that they offer a proprietary thing via a sort of compromise: your data is stored in plain text in markdown, so it remains 100% portable and parseable by anything which can parse markdown.
But I get what you mean.
I’ve been trying it, but the outrageous cost to sync across devices is really annoying.
Via their Sync service, yes. If you’re in the Apple ecosystem, they officially endorse iCloud to sync your files, which I personally use. They discourage using Dropbox, but I reckon it’s possible.
I’m on Android and I’ve been experimenting with an App called FolderSync and Google Drive.
And there’s also the live sync extension which allows you to have live document syncs in real time via your own self-hosted CouchDB instance
So many—almost too many—extensions!
I use markdowns at work and enjoy using it. Its faster for me. Normies will have a hard time figuring it out.
I use obsidian and syncthing, although I use it for just myself; as long as you aren’t editing the same document at once it should work. If there is a file conflict, nothing will be deleted, just the conflicted file with have the word “conflict” in the name. So you can do a text compare between the original and that file to see what needs to be merged.
Syncthing is self hosted, obsidian has desktop and android apps. You can exclude certain files or folders from being synced on a certain device with syncthing. Obsidian uses markdown so that might take some getting used to, but the plus side being all your notes will be text so you aren’t locked in to using obsidian.
You can also use another markdown / text editor as well, maybe one that supports wiki links for obsidian compatibility but obsidian works with the markdown link format as well.
I would use this if it’s just me. It’s difficult to have 2 apps installed on normies phones. Setup obsidian and synthing. Seems like too many points of failure.
I’d agree with that. I set this up on my phone, my wife likes how it looks, but when I told her I would need to set it up on her phone with another app she quickly lost interest. I would not go that way for more than one person and that is myself.
The entire group is already having a hard time keeping up the tailscale app up so I don’t expose my server on the internet. I’m actually going to expose my server soon just so they can stop using the tailscale app.
I saw this. I didn’t know about MoeMemoes. Thank you. I’ll install this to try it out.
I also tried Joplin, but it’s single user only.
No it’s not. I have a self-hosted instance of the server and can share notes with the rest of my family.
Oh, I didn’t know. I saw someone online say it was single user only. Thank you. I’ll reinstall it and check it out.
The shares are at the notebook level, so each person can keep stuff private as well.
Nice. I got it working! Now if I can figure out how to export from Synology to Joplin.
Unfortunately, I can’t help with that at all.
Someone here actually helped me with it.
Automate the process:
There are several scripts that automatically take the Sinology .NSX export you just created, then they translate all it’s content into .md files that you can then easily import in one-click into Joplin. Here are the ones I’ve found: https://github.com/Maboroshy/Note-Station-to-markdown/ “It creates md files and puts all attachments into a sub folder.” https://github.com/xinbindai/Note-Station-to-Joplin A customized version of the above script “to export notes/images in markdown + Front Matter (Directory) that can be [more] easily imported into Joplin.” https://github.com/andreas-vester/notestation-to-joplin This script might be worth it if the above scripts don’t work. Some people had issues with this script, but managed to mostly fix them. See here. Copy-paste each note:
This sounds tedious at first, but once you get in the flow, it isn’t that bad. It isn’t doable if you have 10’000+ notes, but in my case, I got it in a few hours. Remember that even if it takes you one hour a day for a week to move them all, since you’re switching to a nonproprietary format you only have to do this once and then you’re set for life. This person on the Synology forum had your same problem and ended up choosing this option.
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Obsidian
I use obsidian and synthing and its the best setup I have tried so far, but syncthing doesnt work smoothly on my android phone… Im happy with it, but still looking 😃
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I am really happy with Trilium. Powerful enough to do lots of things, simple enough to just take notes. The install comes with some neat templates for the advanced stuff. Running on docker on my Synology, I can use the web UI there but I prefer the desktop client.
I was originally going to go Trilium, but they announced that they are starting to abandon the project. Its currently in maintenance mode. https://github.com/zadam/trilium/issues/4620
True, but it has a pretty great suite of features as-is
Yeah, I just learned about this but I’m gonna stick with it. Might offer some help to the guys starting the fork organization
Thank you!
Oh man, I just got super invested into it a few months ago, bummer. Well, I guess I am sticking with it though for now, works well enough for me as-is, and hopefully the guys that are organizing the fork of it are successful!
Future work on the project is being carried out in a new project called TriliumNext which had the blessing of the original developer. Trilium has a bright future in this fork 👍
Wow, I might check that out. Thanks!
