In the past, laminated glass was usually installed in the windshield, with side and rear windows being tempered only.

The difference is that tempered glass is per-stressed so that when it cracks, it shatters into many tiny and dull pieces. Laminated is the same thing, but with layers of plastic sandwiched with layers of tempered glass. Laminated glass will still shatter, but will be held together by the plastic layers.

In an emergency, small improvised, or purpose built tools meant to shatter tempered glass will be useless if the glass is laminated.

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    Wasn’t it also the door opening mechanism was electronic and it stopped functioning once underwater?

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      Even a purely mechanical door can be extremely difficult to open when partially submerged. The pressure of the water will hold the door shut until the water equalizes on both sides of the door.

      But yeah, once totally submerged and flooded an electric door likely won’t open while a mechanical one will.

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        Yup, that’s what I learned about being in a flooding car. Wait until it’s filled with water and you’ll be able to open the door since the pressure is equalized. But not having the option at all is bonkers, however someone else mentioned that tesla does have a manual lever, in which case it makes this whole debacle even more tragic and stupid.

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      There is apparently a manual lever hidden underneath the button, but that sure does seem like a bad design idea in an emergency.

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          It doesnt look marked to me. If someone saw a door like that they would have absolutely no idea that was a lever/button unless they read through the entire owner’s manual. Which let’s be honest, nobody does that these days.

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            Its not the best picture, but it also has finger holds underneath. For someone looking to pull something, this gets pulled.

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              Usually manual release safety levers or buttons have red or yellow markings on them, yes. Sometimes they have a logo or icon to denote what they open, and sometimes they are marked with “PULL TO OPEN” or some other similar phrase.

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                Interesting, I didn’t know that, I’ll have a look in my car next time I get in it.

                Does that only apply to doors than normally have an electronic way of opening them?

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            It could be a massive red lever with “EMERGENCY OPEN” text on it and the Tesla haters would still find something to complain about.

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        I hate Tesla and traded mine in after only two months of ownership, but in no way is the lever hidden or not extremely obvious. In fact it is more obvious than the button. Several times I had passengers try to use the manual lever, which doesn’t lower the window when used. After the second person did it, moving forward I told every person who hadn’t been in my car before to use the button before getting out. Was one of the many reasons I traded it in.

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          But that’s because they were used to other cars. If you’re used to pressing the button, that’s where you’re gonna go in a panic. Fear basically shuts down higher thought processes so you act fast rather than carefully. So the same reflexive action you use to exit in normal circumstances would be the only thing you can conceive of if you’re on fire or drowning.

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            I have no idea. I wasn’t there and didn’t even know about it until right now. Door could have been jammed shut after the accident like any other door that firefighters keep their jaws of life for.