• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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      8 months ago

      Oh, so you hate small businesses?

      It’s like $30 to run a background check thru a FFL, often less.

      Like, what do you envision the process would be if people just looked themselves or potential buyer up?

      Does the seller get the private information of the buyer and run it? Does the buyer just show up with a printout and a matching ID and we pretend that can’t be faked?

      There’s a cheap and easy system already in existence that works, just use it.

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        Does the seller get the private information of the buyer and run it? Does the buyer just show up with a printout and a matching ID and we pretend that can’t be faked?

        Buyer gets pre-approved via NICS and is given a token Seller confirms that token with NICS

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          What’s quicker to do?

          Use the existing system or create the perfect one you’re dreaming of?

          Because in case you haven’t noticed, this is kind of a time sensitive situation.

          And I remember a decade ago people saying we can’t require background checks on private sale because we should do what you’re describing.

          But it never happens.

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            Because in case you haven’t noticed, this is kind of a time sensitive situation.

            Lol no it’s not. None of the mass shooters that I’m aware of got their guns through private sales. So what’s the time sensitive nature here?

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              You think the only kind of gun violence is mass shootings?

              Where the fuck do you live that is a thing?

              A magical forest with talking animals?

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        Does the seller get the private information of the buyer and run it?

        Businesses are free to steal that information but your average Joe can’t?

        Does the buyer just show up with a printout and a matching ID and we pretend that can’t be faked?

        Why couldn’t they fake that at the gun store?

        Oh, so you hate small businesses?

        Please don’t start things with bad faith arguments.

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            https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b1/Atf_form_4473-firearms_transaction_record_5300_9revised_0.pdf/page1-1200px-Atf_form_4473-firearms_transaction_record_5300_9revised_0.pdf.jpg

            Yes I’ve done many background checks in the past. No I don’t care about giving that info to an individual who I’m buying a firearm from. I would trust the individual more with this information than any business. I don’t buy guns the same way I buy an xbox off of Facebook Marketplace.

            Side note: The last few times I’ve been they’ve actually encouraged me to lie when filling out the form. So it’s not even like they give two shits. And ironically they’re right next door to a homeland security office.

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              Side note: The last few times I’ve been they’ve actually encouraged me to lie when filling out the form.

              But you haven’t reported it to authorities?

              Yeah, you seem like you really care about gun laws and take this seriously.

              Guess I should pay more attention to usernames and listen to what people are telling me.

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                But you haven’t reported it to authorities?

                Yeah, you seem like you really care about gun laws and take this seriously.

                All gun laws are unconstitutional.

                Guess I should pay more attention to usernames and listen to what people are telling me.

                Ah yes, ad hominem attacks based off of a username of all things.

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                  All gun laws are unconstitutional.

                  And there it is.

                  Just start with that next time so people don’t waste time before disregarding your opinion on gun laws.

                  Have a great weekend @fuckwit_mcbumcrumble