That doesn’t answer the question though, who is abusing them? I don’t see a lot of stories of them being abused. Many require a family member or a direct threat to issue so the proof isnt “zero”
That doesn’t answer the question though, who is abusing them?
I just answered that in the comment you replied to…
I don’t see a lot of stories of them being abused.
All depends on where you get your news. CNN isn’t going to report on this. In fact almost no one is going to report on this. Because it’s boring and most people don’t care.
Try typing “red flag law abuse” into your favorite search engine.
Many require a family member or a direct threat to issue so the proof isnt “zero”
That’s the thing though I don’t see any proof what you’re saying is correct. Most ERPOs require proof or a statement from a family member (which is in most cases good evidence) so these do have judicial review.
Only a couple states rely on law enforcement only (Indiana and Florida). And outside of california all arms are supposed to be returned after 1 year which seems incredibly fair if somebody is off their meds or having a breakdown or something.
I mean you’re just ignoring the much larger group of individuals who this will undoubtedly be used to abuse.
Explain what you mean here. Who is abusing red flag laws?
Government officials. Most of these “red flag laws” have zero burden of proof.
That doesn’t answer the question though, who is abusing them? I don’t see a lot of stories of them being abused. Many require a family member or a direct threat to issue so the proof isnt “zero”
I just answered that in the comment you replied to…
All depends on where you get your news. CNN isn’t going to report on this. In fact almost no one is going to report on this. Because it’s boring and most people don’t care.
Try typing “red flag law abuse” into your favorite search engine.
And many of them don’t.
https://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/red-flag-laws-constitutionality-and-enforcement-of-extreme-risk-protection-orders.html
That’s the thing though I don’t see any proof what you’re saying is correct. Most ERPOs require proof or a statement from a family member (which is in most cases good evidence) so these do have judicial review.
Only a couple states rely on law enforcement only (Indiana and Florida). And outside of california all arms are supposed to be returned after 1 year which seems incredibly fair if somebody is off their meds or having a breakdown or something.
I already addressed this. Please come back with something new.
You already said that and I already said that many of them don’t.
Yeah but you’re lying
LOL okay, easy enough for you to just lie about that. Lot easier than actually putting together anything that resembles an argument.
Have you really never heard of the Black Panthers and similar groups? Those are the sorts of people these laws would be abused to disarm.