Hello everyone,

We unfortunately have to close the !lemmyshitpost community for the time being. We have been fighting the CSAM (Child Sexual Assault Material) posts all day but there is nothing we can do because they will just post from another instance since we changed our registration policy.

We keep working on a solution, we have a few things in the works but that won’t help us now.

Thank you for your understanding and apologies to our users, moderators and admins of other instances who had to deal with this.

Edit: @Striker@lemmy.world the moderator of the affected community made a post apologizing for what happened. But this could not be stopped even with 10 moderators. And if it wasn’t his community it would have been another one. And it is clear this could happen on any instance.

But we will not give up. We are lucky to have a very dedicated team and we can hopefully make an announcement about what’s next very soon.

Edit 2: removed that bit about the moderator tools. That came out a bit harsher than how we meant it. It’s been a long day and having to deal with this kind of stuff got some of us a bit salty to say the least. Remember we also had to deal with people posting scat not too long ago so this isn’t the first time we felt helpless. Anyway, I hope we can announce something more positive soon.

  • Whitehat Hacker@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1377·
    1 year ago

    That’s not a troll, CSAM goes well beyond trolling, pedophile would be a more accurate term for them.

    • CoderKat@lemm.eeEnglish
      271·
      1 year ago

      Yeah. A troll might post something like a ton of oversized images of pig buttholes. Who the fuck even has access to CSAM to post? That’s something you only have on hand if you’re a predator already. Nor is it something you can shrug off like “lol I was only trolling”. It’s a crime that will send you to jail for years. It’s a major crime that gets entire police units dedicated to it. It’s a huuuuge deal and I cannot even fathom what kind of person would risk years in prison to sabotage an internet forum.

      • Queen HawlSera@lemm.eeEnglish
        3·
        1 year ago

        My thoughts exactly, like if they were just spamming goatsee or something, that would be one thing…

        But this raises several questions, and they can only have grimdark answers.

    • Hello Hotel@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4·
      1 year ago

      Dont forget they are doing this to harm others, they deserve the name “e-terrorist” or simmlar. hey are still absolutely pedophiles. Their bombing out a space, not trying to set up shop.

      • khannie@lemmy.worldEnglish
        262·
        1 year ago

        Simply having it to post makes you culpable. It’s way beyond trolling.

              • Whitehat Hacker@lemmy.worldEnglish
                142·
                1 year ago

                Do you know why we have possession laws against CSAM in the first place? It’s because people buy and sell abuse material in underground markets, it’s another way they profit off the abuse of children. This is nothing like drug possession laws (which are stupid) because the product is literally a direct product of the abuse of children that many of the people in possession likely helped the criminals in order to obtain it (either directly or by paying them for it).

                So yes in this case it does make sense to criminally charge people for possession of something like this considering the direct connection CSAM has to child trafficking and child sexual abuse and when you defend it by going against possession laws it makes it seem like you support these criminals.

                  • GodzillaFanboy129@lemmy.world
                    9·
                    1 year ago

                    Oh boy do we have a very hot take here don’t we, lmao this guy just tried to compare someone smoking a joint, doing shrooms, or even cocaine to the act of sexually abusing a child and trying to sell the pictures.

                    Don’t even bother engaging with this guy, he’s clearly a troll mindlessly parroting other people’s arguments, report, block, move on.

              • Whitehat Hacker@lemmy.worldEnglish
                71·
                1 year ago

                Oh by the way, MAP stuff really doesn’t look good on you (that’s in your comment history). Yeah maybe you think I’m a terrible person because I think drugs should be treated less harshly but you have literally said in other comments that Pedophiles should be allowed to get off on what turns them on (which I remind you is exploitation of Minors). That is a very different stance than people shouldn’t be beaten and arrested for snorting coke, you’re literally advocating for people to be allowed to produce and consume abuse material and claiming that it’s acceptable for people to be pedophiles, and pursue their attractions instead of getting help. I don’t know how you don’t see what is wrong with that. Like seriously this is either really bad trolling (way too far) or, you’re one of them.

                Too bad, I’m “kid agnostic”; they might as well be cars or dragons —drawn or otherwise—, I don’t care whether they’re “kid” or “grownup” cars or dragons.

                I think I now know which one it is if that statement from the horse’s mouth is to be believed…

              • Hello Hotel@lemmy.worldEnglish
                3·
                1 year ago

                A lot of stuff the government bans doesnt align with morrality. In this instance it fucken does

                Yes getting someone to drop this on your hard drive even if its explicitly labeled “cache” is equivilant to evidence planting. It puts you in danger of our laws falsely finding you guilty (misunderstandings are a thing, i dont know the level of risk). The advice by our governments is “delete it emedately”. Follow it as completely as you can. Most devices dont broadcast your harddrive contents without warning, giving you time to delete it. For this being false for iphones, Its a risk to ones personal freedom to go on lemmy on an iphone until we can get this CSAM issue resolved.

          • Hello Hotel@lemmy.worldEnglish
            4·
            1 year ago

            Yes, its a virus, the FBI will target anyone who is a host. anyone Who has it on their drive, (edit: intent may be relivant, im no expert). The only way to stay safe is to rid yourself of it. Delete it.

            Lemmy mods, keep yourself safe

            please dont use an iphone to moderate, if your on linux (i think windows too) use bleachbit on your browser cache and do the “vaccuum” operation.

            On android

            • to clear cache or better written instructions here

              • go to where you see all your apps
              • find your client
              • tap and hold on its icon
              • tap “app info”
              • go to “storage”
              • tap “clear cache”
              • (if your parranoid “clear data” and loose you sign in, settings and other local data).

            • To manually vaccum, vant find better instructions

              • download an app called “termux”, it doesnt need any permissions for this task.
              • when you see a black screen with text, type clear and hit enter,
              • Then type or paste
            { echo writing big file of random;
cat /dev/urandom >file-gets-big;
rm file-gets-big -v; }
            • And hit enter

            Your phone and the program cat will complain About being out of storage, if rm gets run, it will be fixed again. If it still complains or termux crashes, uninstall and reinstall termux, the vaccum process is finished

            Some people know at a glance wether these steps are safe or not, others do not. never follow instructions you dont understand, verify that i havent led you do somthing dumb.

      • Whitehat Hacker@lemmy.worldEnglish
        122·
        1 year ago

        A person who is attracted to children is an evil and disgusting person, someone being a pedophile isn’t just “liking something”, they are a monster.

        • else@lemdro.idEnglish
          103·
          1 year ago

          People spreading CSAM are beyond terrible, but I don’t agree with this generalization. Pedophiles don’t choose to be pedophiles, so as long as they control themselves and avoid harming anyone, I don’t like labelling them as evil monsters.

          • Whitehat Hacker@lemmy.worldEnglish
            81·
            1 year ago

            Okay, fair enough. I wasn’t considering those people since they’ll never really be labelled pedophiles due to hiding their mental illness from the world (only really disclosing it to mental health professionals if ever) and never acting on it. It’s the actions committed or fantasies endorsed that differentiate someone from merely being mentally ill or a monster.

            Disclaimer: Would like to say, it is valid for me or anyone else to say pedophiles are mentally ill but it is not valid to say that gay people are mentally ill, homosexuality is a legitimate sexual orientation because people pursuing homosexual attractions with other consenting adults does not harm others, (this is not debatable and I WILL report any homophobic arguments I see popping up as a result here) however pedophilia is not like this at all because anyone who pursues it will cause harm because children cannot consent and therefore these interactions are harmful to them and anyone involved, which is why it is a mental illness (again this is also not debatable, anything that causes harm to others by acting on it is not a valid orientation but a mental illness, same thing goes for rapists).

            • else@lemdro.idEnglish
              51·
              1 year ago

              I wasn’t considering those people since they’ll never really be labelled pedophiles due to hiding their mental illness from the world (only really disclosing it to mental health professionals if ever) and never acting on it.

              I guess this is also the difference between getting caught or not. To me, rapist that is never caught is still a rapist even if they are never labelled as such, so a pedophile that hides it forever successfully is still a pedophile.

              Disclaimer

              Yes agreed.

              • Whitehat Hacker@lemmy.worldEnglish
                2·
                1 year ago

                I guess this is also the difference between getting caught or not. To me, rapist that is never caught is still a rapist even if they are never labelled as such, so a pedophile that hides it forever successfully is still a pedophile.

                Agreed. If they did it but hid it and never were publicly labeled as a pedophile they are still a pedophile because of their actions and intentions, even if they were never caught and/or cancelled/convicted for it.

          • Whitehat Hacker@lemmy.worldEnglish
            131·
            1 year ago

            This is a serious problem we are discussing, please don’t use this as an opportunity to inject bad-faith arguments.

            Edit: Wow your post history is a lot of the same garbage, there is no point in attempting to reason with you, you seem to be defending the act of CSAM or just trolling (really awful and severe trolling I might add, CSAM isn’t something to joke or troll about).

              • Whitehat Hacker@lemmy.world
                111·
                1 year ago

                Ah I see what’s going on, you’re salty that they closed the shitposting community so you’re trolling here, going so far as to compare gays and jews to pedophillia (which is extremely bigoted and incorrect) or downplay the horrific acts that led to the closing of that community and registrations to protect the rest of the Instance’s well being.

                Also I’d appreciate it if you didn’t edit what I said when quoting me, thanks.

                  • Whitehat Hacker@lemmy.worldEnglish
                    51·
                    1 year ago

                    Amazing, you think that being against pedophiles makes someone a bigot, do you think the same applies to being against Nazis as well? Paradox of tolerance much?

                    There’s a very clear difference between the arguments you cited and pedophilia, which is that pedophilia causes physical and psychological harm to the child who is the victim and also is extremely psychologically harmful to the people who witness such event or the abuse material from it. I don’t think you realize how severe this is or you wouldn’t be trying to defend such heinous acts right now.