• Stern@lemmy.world
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    “So guys getting blown up in trenches in Ukraine by drones? Ha, totally not age-restricted,” the creator said. “ Me firing a 3D printed pink glock that I made? Age-restricted. We don’t need kids watching that. We want kids watching people getting blown up by mines. Love it. Awesome.”

    Guys missing the corpo bottom line.

    Gun manufacturers have gotten sued by families of school shooting victims. Youtube runs the risk of getting dragged into court because little Billy sees the 3D printed pink glock, decides that he can make that, that its time to fuck up some bullies, and then after that those bullies parents shoot lawyers in every direction (which includes Youtube, even if the odds of getting anything are minimal) like mushroom spores. That risk assessment doesn’t exist for Ukraine war vids.

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      Yeah billy should be build IEDs not 3d printed guns. That’ll make kids safer. /s

      Honestly, why can’t we put half the effort we do censoring the world into teaching kids/people the sanctity of human life. There was a time where the US was had strong pacifist culture but almost every house had gun, but I think we didn’t do a good job transitioning from religious to secular values in that way.

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        Yeah billy should be build IUDs not 3d printed guns

        I see the /s but…The Ukraine war videos don’t show how to build IEDs, though. And even if they did, who would the parents sue? Ukraine, a nation at war? As opposed to 3D printed guns show you how to make them, and you could try to sue the gun company who it belongs to. And YouTube in both cases.

        we didn’t do a good job transitioning from religious to secular values in that way.

        A lot of religions were founded on and/or expanded by violence (Pilgrims to America, Knights Templar, Spanish Inquisition, etc), so I don’t remotely think “religious to secular” is the reason.

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          Oh yeah no doubt religion isn’t a solid basis for morality. More so just saying that we are niehlist, new ageist, more than holding something like humanist values now.

          A lot of the 3d printed gun video content is more like reviews because YouTube already censor creation content.

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        Yeah billy should be build IUDs not 3d printed guns.

        lol what the fuck?

        Inter uterine devices are implanted birth control you fucking moron.

        You probably meant IED, Improvised Explosive Device, but are too simple to understand acronyms have meanings.

        Honestly, why can’t we put half the effort we do censoring the world

        if you put half your effort into reading and comprehension you’d probably engage all four brain cells.

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          They have a logical point though. On the Ukranian war videos side we know that the news has to blur certain things for public decency or safety etc.

          On the 3D printing side we know that while these videos are definitely educational, the point is that such an education can be used in a very horrible way.

          IUD might be how their phone’s keyboard corrected, or they might have just swapped the acronyms. It’s more important that you knew what he meant and I think you’re dismissing it out of hand.

          When the internet first became popular there was a whole thing about kids having access to the materials to make a bomb with instructions. Took some bookstores down with them. Anarchist cookbook moral panic everywhere.So yeah this has been a thing for a long time.

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            pfft, I think you’re giving them way more credit than they deserve. I really want them to homebrew IUD’s lol, they’re gonna need them when their states outlaw abortion.

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              I mean I am unironically I am for people making medicine and medical devices at home if they have no other option (the four thieves vinegar collective is the best group I know for this, with diy abortion cards being one their products).

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                I mean I am unironically I am for people making medicine and medical devices at home if they have no other option

                yeah I’m of the mind that we should keep civilization chugging so people don’t have to homebrew penicillin. you do you. but don’t put your IEDs where your IUDs should go.

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          Lol yeah I doubt IUDs are being talked about much on the war reports. Its been a heck of a week for me, so that’s my excuse for the typo.

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            communication hinges upon clarity and if you don’t know which words to use, or don’t use them correctly, you can’t blame the receiver for wondering WTF

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      that its time to fuck up some bullies, and then after that those bullies parents shoot lawyers in every direction

      Frankly in such a situation not such instructions, and not even Billy’s parents should be held primarily responsible, but bullies’ parents.

      Would reduce the amount of such cases quite a lot, not even talking about more healthy childhood for every human useful for civilization (bullies usually grow into pretty average types).

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        Frankly in such a situation not such instructions, and not even Billy’s parents should be held primarily responsible, but bullies’ parents.

        so if someone murdered you, by your logic they should get off if they say you were bullying them, thereby transferring the blame to your parents?

        Y’all need to stop huffing gasoline.

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          Yes, if you abuse someone morally and then they kill you, it’s their right.

          transferring the blame to your parents?

          Parents answer for their underage children.

          If they say

          No, if I did. Which is what they’ll say and what’ll be proven in court of law.

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            LOLWTF

            you’re deranged, you know that, right?

            the murderer is the murderer. now, there may be factors involved that drove the person to murder, but they don’t justify the murder. And they certainly don’t get to blame the MURDER VICTIM, or their parents, for murder.

            but I can see you’re really fixated on this logic, please, don’t let the people who bully you drive you to murdering someone, even if, apparently, you’ve put A LOT OF THOUGHT into this entire chain of events.

            No one’s going to give a fuck who bullied you once you start shooting mate.

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              No one’s going to give a fuck who bullied you once you start shooting mate.

              Once I start shooting I wouldn’t care who thinks what, no?

              now, there may be factors involved that drove the person to murder, but they don’t justify the murder. And they certainly don’t get to blame the MURDER VICTIM, or their parents, for murder.

              A bully is not a victim and gets what’s coming to them. Same as killing in self-defense.

              Anyway, the mechanism I’ve described improves humanity, because bullies want to bully and don’t want to die, whether their victim then goes to jail or not.

              A dead person or a person in jail doesn’t poison the society, neither does someone who killed another in self-defense or under mental duress consciously inflicted by that person. A bully who is not dead and not in jail does poison it quite a lot.

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                A bully is not a victim and gets what’s coming to them. Same as killing in self-defense.

                So like, Kyle Rittenhouse, you’re just gonna open up on your perceived bullies and then expect right wing politicians to save you?

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                  This comment doesn’t make any sense. Also would you compare a woman’s self-defense against sexual assault, for example, to Kyle Rittenhouse’s case?

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                    you’re talking with glee about opening up on your supposed bullies, Kyle. Gonna block you now, hopefully I won’t get a call from the FBI one day.