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I already drink Soylent and huel. I’m not saying anything about the palletability of vegan food. you seem to be the one fixated on taste.
I already drink Soylent and huel. I’m not saying anything about the palletability of vegan food. you seem to be the one fixated on taste.
If we take 7% of all soy out because it’s fed directly to animals, and another 6.9% is eaten, but not as oil, and 20% of each of the remaining beans are made of oil, we find 17.22% is the maximum amount of oil we could get if all the soy beans not fed to animals or eaten by people are pressed for oil.
It turns out that the chart shows 13.2% is oil for humans to eat, and 4.0% is used industrially (and these are all oil uses), totaling 17.2%,then basically all soy not eaten directly by animals or as various human foods is pressed for oil.
source https://ourworldindata.org/uploads/2021/02/Global-soy-production-to-end-use.png
you think good tofu will make people give up their cultural foods and farming tradition?
you’re misunderstanding the chart. it literally says "end uses " on the chart. do you see where the soy fed to cattle is called “soy cake”? that’s the byproduct of pressing soybeans for oil.
If we take 7% of all soy out because it’s fed directly to animals, and another 6.9% is eaten, but not as oil, and 20% of each of the remaining beans are made of oil, we find 17.22% is the maximum amount of oil we could get if all the soy beans not fed to animals or eaten by people are pressed for oil.
It turns out that the chart shows 13.2% is oil for humans to eat, and 4.0% is used industrially (and these are all oil uses), totaling 17.2%,then basically all soy not eaten directly by animals or as various human foods is pressed for oil.
source https://ourworldindata.org/uploads/2021/02/Global-soy-production-to-end-use.png
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once is too often. that doesn’t mean that the vast majority of them are experiencing torture. or even millions. or even thousands.
didn’t you already try that?
you’re not reading that page very closely. a soybean is only about 20% oil, so to get 17% in oil uses, you’ll need to crush about 85% of all soybeans.
that supports my case
you have a study that shows that 85% of soybeans aren’t crushed for oil? a study that shows that livestock aren’t mostly fed crop seconds and silage and industrial waste? i’d like to see that.
i doubt they’ll run out of beans. they probably already bought enough for the year on contract. same with the hotdogs, too, for that matter.
imagine i’m asking people for money and they give me change but i specifically meant personal checks. this is you. this is you right now.
do you have a plan to make that happen?
they’re not torturing them. they’re not being cruel for cruelty’s sake. The point isn’t the pain. The pain is incidental. it’s not torture.
You’re proposing people stop buying things from them now.
no one is torturing animals.
if enough people stop buying meat, less meat will be produced
i don’t think that will ever happen
the store gets to decide what to do with their money and they can choose to take the bean money and stock up on hotdogs for labor day.
i drank a lot of huel (though i did skip a lot of the flavors) and i have to say i don’t think it’s great. every flavor is too sweet EXCEPT the unflavored unsweetened, but that was a chore to drink. by contrast, i just started drinking soylent original powder and i like it a great deal.