Used Bolts are a hell of a bargain right now, especially with the tax credit. I have an EUV Premier and that’s got a lot of little things that add up to a really nice car (ventilated seats!)
The only catch is slow DC fast charging (some older ones don’t even have that). No problem at all for commuting and short trips out of town (living in southern Denver, I can easily go to Colorado Springs on a charge) but you need to know what you’re getting yourself into for longer trips
Speaking of doing research, thoughts?
https://www.npr.org/2024/09/23/nx-s1-5074064/ev-gas-cars-environment-skepticism
The big question is if you can charge at home. Depending on the car, it’s feasible to do so on a normal outlet if you drive ~30 miles or less per day. A 240 volt outlet can be a game changer on top of that though. My setup charges my car 0-100 in about 6 hours (you know, overnight, when I’m not doing anything and electricity is cheapest). But if I were in an apartment and had no access to overnight charging I’d consider other options.
(Chevy Bolt EUV)
Ah so now it’s elaboration and credible sources.
Uh, yeah? If you’re going to make a vague claim without evidence it’s fair to ask for details and some assurance that you’re not making things up
I’m already one up on this with an article from the FT about insurance costs being higher due to the increased likelihood of an electric car write off.
How about some actual evidence they’re more reliable? Other than your bizarre hypothetical arguments.
Again, you’re talking about fragility - something being easy to break when acted on by an external thing. Reliability is about a car breaking down on its own. Something can be fragile, unreliable, both, or neither.
Tied to the dealer. There’s very few independent EV garages. 95% of the time you’ll have to take the price for any repair they offer you. You can’t shop around.
Still has nothing to do with the likelihood of a car breaking down with normal use - in fact, you’re kind of proving my point because if they did break down all the time, maybe you’d see EV shops opening up? Or existing shops branching out? Not sure why you think they’d refuse the business opportunity
Complexity. Although they often use the “one moving part” argument with all the extra infrastructure for charging etc they can have very bespoke electric parts. Which means no simple of the shelf pattern parts that are as good for much less. Dealer parts only.
Delay in these parts. There just isn’t enough of a parts infrastructure at the moment. This can even cover simple things like lights or trim.
Not enough technicians.
Again, NONE of this has anything to do with the likelihood of a car breaking down. You’re predicting (maybe accurately, maybe not) what would happen if a breakdown were to happen. And your points aren’t really inherent to electric vehicles as much as they are to less-common ones. Much of what you said could apply to a kei truck brought in from Japan, a decades-old car, a supercar, or a car you just don’t see on the road as often like a Smart car or Mini Cooper.
Far more issues with long term EV ownership than just battery age
Would you care to elaborate and show a reasonably credible source backing up whatever you think is such a big problem?
My point is, something can be more durable but also more fragile. The original article was talking about the durability, and the original commenter couldn’t comprehend that because of an entirely different variable that was never part of the original point.
I didn’t mean “sitting in a garage not getting used”, I meant “getting used, but not getting in an unpredictable accident”
Accidents are an additional variable outside of what the original article is talking about
You’re comparing two different scenarios. Let’s say you have two cups, one is made out of paper and the other is made of glass. They’re 6 feet off a concrete patio. Wind isn’t an issue.
Let them sit forever, and the paper one will disintegrate long before the glass does. Tip them over, and the glass one will shatter.
For that reason I’m annoyed at large SUVs losing their boxiness in recent years. Like, I get it for sedans and stuff, but if I’m driving a big SUV my main concern is utility (you know, the U in SUV) and a curved back side makes it that much harder to fit my grandma’s kitchen table in the back when I give it to my cousin.
GM had a similar deal when I bought my Bolt. It was pretty awesome, since my panel is on the other side of my house from the garage and it would’ve cost about $1500 otherwise. Lots of horror stories with the middleman they used (QMerit) and people having “non-standard” installations over silly little things though. Hopefully Ford has a little better implementation.
That would be cool, but really? They could have also sold the car and nothing else. They do a promo that should make EVs a little more approachable for a lot of people, and you’re demanding a (probably) 5-figure addition to that?
“up to” 60 amps per the original snippet means you could do less if a load calculation needs it. Really, damn near any panel installed in the last several decades can take an additional 240V 20A circuit, which is still a lot of juice if you math out the kind of use you can get over a year.
What are you talking about? 200A is a HUGE panel as it is. You’re going to have a hard time getting bigger than that on a residential connection. If you go balls to the wall with the big stuff in your house, you’d be looking at about 30 amps for AC, 50 for stove and oven (by the way, that’s all burners and oven running at the same time. Happy Thanksgiving?), 30 for a clothes dryer, and you still have 90 amps at 240 volts remaining.
Oh, and realistically that’s two 90-amp sets of 120 volts. And really, most people charge their car at night, when demand and rates are lower. Maybe your AC is going to run occasionally, but you’re probably not making that Thanksgiving feast while laundry is going
Ask anyone who works support how fucking stupid the general population
They’re going to have a huge selection bias though - much of the “general population” will start elsewhere with things like documentation or brains.
I forgot about that! And most songs sound like ass when you hear it over a phone, especially before whatever they did in the last decade to make voice calls more clear
I don’t think that’s going to be an unpopular opinion around here. Maybe a little tricky in the logistics of distinguishing between an artist and influencer and finding an artist who you like and can pay for a phone background, but other than that you’re not going to find many Lemmings saying “no, pay an influencer!”
Remember when people paid for ringtones? Doesn’t mean it isn’t stupid, especially as a subscription, but people do stupid things and other people take advantage.
I’m not an avid reader, but I’m a huge fan of a book called Over the Edge of the World by Lawrence Bergreen. That detailed Magellan’s voyage around the world. A few takeaways:
Spices really were the thing everyone in Europe wanted. If a sailor managed to smuggle a backpack full of cloves, it would be enough to buy a modest house. Only one of 5 ships made it back, but it was filled with top quality cloves and that was enough that the trip was STILL a financial gain.
Nobody really knew where the spices came from. India was a nebulous semi-mythical place, and some believed there were a few "India"s
Magellan, while Portuguese by birth, basically moved to Spain when Portugal wouldn’t pay for him to try to find the spice Islands
The treaty of Tordesillas roughly divided the new world between Spain and Portugal. The land east of whatever meridian was Portugal’s, and west was Spain’s. But there were still issues, like longitude not really being measurable at the time and no clear idea who had claim 180° past that meridian. But it would have been to Spain’s benefit to find the spice islands past that meridian
Bonus fact: the first human to sail around the world was Magellan’s slave, Enrique (last name escapes me). He was brought from Indonesia(?) to Europe, then set sail on this round-the world journey, eventually going near his native homeland. Magellan had it in his will that Enrique be freed upon his death, but when he was killed on that voyage (basically by his own who) nobody was aware of that.
Not really. There were plenty of random pages, but you really had to seek it out to see it. Now an overwhelming majority of non-ad posts are stuff like this (and I wouldn’t be surprised if they pay to have this stuff seen, basically making it an ad)
But how do we know an s will be the next letter? 😟