• AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today
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    3 months ago

    In another timeline where boomers didn’t destroy the housing market, didn’t ignore climate change, and didn’t continue to vote for regressive policies, maybe they’d have grandchildren.

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      3 months ago

      At some point, us millennials need to also start taking that responsibility. Our oldest cohort is definitely at an age where we are starting to take over power. We won’t be able to blame boomers for shit for long.

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      I’m sorry but the collapse of the housing market and lack of action against climate change has way more to do with the commodification/privitization of housing and energy (as well as labor exploitation in the case of fossil fuels) than some arbitrary generational definition.

      Don’t let yourself be convinced to blame fellow workers for the consequences of corporate and state action.

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        My point was that they’ve continually voted against their own interests (and against the interests of the rest of their class, which is why they now don’t have grandchildren). I will continue to blame them for that at the very least, as they’ve continually proven that they enjoy the corporate and state inaction (because they’ve always voted to keep it up).

        It should also be noted that this is a post about boomers, so of course people are going to bring them up in the comments.

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          I was told it’s all those immigrants vault. It was on my TV last night so it must be true!

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          It should also be noted that this is a post about boomers, so of course people are going to bring them up in the comments.

          Of course and I expected that. I only bothered commenting because I see a lot of media attempting to use boomers as a scapegoat for severe structural issues. I feel it is our responsibility to rebuke this reactionary rhetoric when we see it. Yes boomers often vote against their own class interest but we must also understand they grew up in a time where propaganda was rapidly becoming more effective and increasingly privatized. Which is to say that the propaganda machine served the rich and their interest. They are severely brainwashed especially in the imperial core. Its easy to be angry at them for letting this happen but we must remember who did the brainwashing. Falling for their scapegoats makes us like dogs fighting over bones thrown by meat

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        You’re being charitable. You need to remind yourself though that pretty much all of them voted for Reagan because Carter had the audacity to say that we can fix a lot of problems by consuming less. This was a generation that fully believed that they could do a consumerism without end.

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    Once again Gen-X is ignored. It’s Gen-X hitting grandparenting age.

    My two kids probably won’t be parents, and I’m ok with that. I want them to be happy more than I want to enjoy grandkids. Whatever they choose, I’ll be happy with.

    I felt pressure from Boomer parents to have kids, and I didn’t want to do the same to my kids. That’s a hard nope.

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      Seems like old = boomers and young = millennials for journalist and a lot of people

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        People are having kids later in life, and the youngest millennials are only ~29.

        Millennials are predominantly the children of Boomers, so that’s why these two generations are basing singled out.

        Gen-X were called the a Baby Bust generation for a reason; there aren’t enough of them around in order to swap population metrics compared to what came directly before and after.

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      I mean you can still have grandkids. I’ve heard they’re great deep fried with a light cornmeal batter and a creamy dill sauce.

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      Once again Gen-X is ignored.

      I will maintain, as I always do, that getting lumped in with the wrong group and ignored is the most Gen-X thing going right now.

      With that, I conclude: whatever ::eye roll::.

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      Gen X is normally described as 1965-1980 so 44 to 59 years old.

      Average age of mothers first birth right now is 27. It was around 25 for most of Gen X. So 25 + 27 = 52. Yeah new grandparents are not boomers.

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      I mean, she’s a boomer, if she said she had I still wouldn’t trust her.

      Boomers: “Reality can be anything I want.”

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      she better stop voting for conservatives

      Democrats have won the popular vote in the last seven of eight elections. If everyone struck this deal, I would expect to see significantly more grandkids than we’re getting.

      But also, states like California and New York and Massachusetts are seeing grandkid-gaps bigger than anything you’ll find in Utah or Ohio or South Carolina. If conservatives are causing the problem, you would expect to see more Gen Alphas in the bluer states, wouldn’t you?

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        The poorer families in those states make do better than poorer families in red states, but not enough to support having kids

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      The wealthier Boomers left behind millions of tiny little ladders specifically for their kids to climb.

      The poorer Boomers died before hitting retirement age, or died in debt, or bankrupted themselves paying for end-of-life health care, or got scammed or otherwise denuded of their accumulated wealth.

      Incidentally, its the wealthier Boomers who continue to set national policy from the board rooms and lobbying offices established by their own parents and grandparents. Meanwhile the poorer and more isolated Boomers are left to drown in their own poverty, ineffectually raging at the collapse of neighborhoods and the destitution of their pension funds and the deterioration of their suburban homes, unless their children and grandchildren are able to help them out at the end of their days.

      Folks like to pretend this is one generation pitted against another. But its selection bias. The only members of the Boomer generation you hear from are the ones that came out on top. The rest have been killed in the wars or poisoned by industrial waste and lead pollution or foreclosed into homelessness to die on the streets or confined to digital communities like Facebook where they’re drowned out by waves of misinformation accounts. Legions of dead Boomers never got to decide how the current generations live. They were burned up and thrown out, just like the current generation of bourgeois GenXers and Millennials and Zoomers plan to do with the rest of us.

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        They all came out on top. Even the poorest boomer right now today living in the street had a better shot at the American dream than all but the most lucky of youth right now.

        Yes some fucked up or got screwed over but as a vast majority even these people supported and continue to support the same people who have put them there in the first place.

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          Even the poorest boomer right now today living in the street had a better shot at the American dream

          Trying to explain to a sharecropper born in 1945 and dead from cholera or smallpox in 1965 that he had just as good a shot at the “American Dream” as someone born after modern sanitation, public education, and highway mass transit was installed in their municipality forty years later.

          But I can’t, because that sharecropper was illiterate and also dead.

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    Maybe they shouldn’t horde and partition their wealth from their children and do everything possible to ensure every penny is spent before death.

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      You’re not wrong, but this is more of a class issue than a generational issue, although in this case they certainly intersect. My boomer parents don’t have any money; they got screwed over by the 1% just like the rest of us.

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    I want the lions share of the profits of our economy! I want to pull the ladder up behind me! Why aren’t these lazy millennials having kids for me!?

    You’re entitled millennials!

    /Vomit

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    Lmfao thanks for ruining our whole society, boomers. Reap what you’ve sowed.

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    Who writes this trash…

    Imagine a society ran for benefit of gereatrics and nepo babies at the expense of young working people

    Now open your eyes 🤡

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    Make the world a place that will be liveable in 100 years and pay people enough to exist:

    A) without children, and B) with children

    and boom, problem solved. Statistically, anyway.

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    Aww. Maybe if they didn’t spend their days treating their kids like their bank accounts and actually voted to help them afford things like housing and health care they’d have grandkids.

    Instead they supported ghouls like trump and clinton instead of the guy who wanted to give everybody health care!