• xor@infosec.pub
    39·
    1 day ago

    so, because punishing all women is bad, it’s a good idea to punish all men?
    here’s an alternative: don’t fuck republicans… they’re the ones trying to control women.

    • LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      43·
      1 day ago

      It’s not punishing anyone as much as asserting our bodily autonomy, but go off. Targeting Republicans means no pressure is applied to anyone else to change society. Not every woman will participate in the strike. The effects of it have to be wide reaching.

      It’s a widespread denial of the institutions behind gender relationships. Saying that the system is dangerous for women and refusing to participate in it.

      • xor@infosec.pub
        12·
        21 hours ago

        but go off.

        oh look, zero chance that you’re actually trying to have a conversation… yaaay internet.

        Not every woman will participate in the strike.

        almost none will, but if they did, it’s not going to be republican women….

        • Gamma@beehaw.orgEnglish
          8·
          53 minutes ago

          They could’ve been telling you to go off because the not all men argument is unnecessary and pedantic. Obviously it’s not all men, but it’s enough of them that nobody should have to specify only the misogynists, racists, rapists, etc.

          It has always been bizarre to me that good people lump themselves in with them. You don’t have to be defensive! You can understand nuance!

          • xor@infosec.pub
            1·
            4 hours ago

            the post i’m replying to says “ no __ with men”… 4 times… it’s silly to pretend that means only bad men….

            there’s no nuance in that list….

            blanket blaming MEN for everything is just as stupid as men acting like “all women are ___”.

            i thought the whole trans and non-binary thing would’ve taught people that’s it’s not a genetic problem with men, but a cultural problem with toxic masculinity….

            btw, women voted…. they could’ve all voted for feminist issues and anti-gop but they didn’t…. men AND women fucked this up for women AND men… we’re aaaaaaalllll fucked because of this stupid republicult, not because of a chromosome…

            but, go ahead and waste your time with stupid projects, women love doing that!
            (not all women, obviously… you understand nuance!)

            • petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone
              3·
              3 hours ago

              First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Counciler or the Klu Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action”; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a “more convenient season.” Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.

              Take a moment, a deep breath, some fresh clean air, and think about why you’re putting so much energy into saying… I dunno, all of the things that you’re saying.

              If this 4B thing were about liberating women from a literal slavery, if they falsly identified you as one of those nasty republicans, if they really did mean absolutely no men whatsoever: is it worth all of this anger you’re feeling? Is your quabble with them over your own love life more important than their fight for freedom? Do you not agree that they should be free?

              • xor@infosec.pub
                1·
                3 hours ago

                “deep breath” “all this anger you’re feeling” “quabble”
                “do you not agree that they should be free”.
                …
                lol, pure trolling… not bad technique but a little over the top… you should try to actually get me angry before trying to act like i’m inferior for having emotions and not being a psychopath like you….
                but, you do you….

                • petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone
                  3·
                  2 hours ago

                  If you’re not upset by the 4B women, what are you doing, then?

                  Do you mean to tell me you’re in here arguing about something you don’t even believe in?

                  It’s not a trick, man. Trump makes me angry. Dissidents to good-natured protest make me angry. Anti-intellectualism actually makes me really angry—I’m not shy about that.

                  • xor@infosec.pub
                    1·
                    1 hour ago

                    it’s possible to say a thing without being upset or angry about it…
                    but yep, classic troll tactics “you’re so angry!” “i insist that you’re angry” “if you’re not angry, how could you possibly be responding to anything!?!?”
                    you’re very, very boring.
                    you lost me a loooong time ago, petrol_sniff_king

    • BallsandBayonets@lemmings.world
      14·
      1 day ago

      I give it about 6 months of this strategy before conservative men will be paid to pretend to be leftists in order to impregnate women, so I understand the “don’t fuck any man” strategy.