Microsoft clearly isn’t bothered that it’s automatically starting up Edge on people’s PC and then trying to trick them into importing their Chrome data. That’s not too surprising though since Microsoft has been pulling tricks like this for more than four years now.

Microsoft’s behavior here makes many people distrust Edge, Windows 11, and even the company’s AI efforts.

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    Just doing the lords work and spreading the news of W11 IoT Enterprise LTSC. It only has Defender and Edge; no Xbox, App Store, Copilot, nor Recall, or any other bloat. Perfect for gaming. Don’t waste your time looking for it on sites like massgravedotdev.

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      And if you have lots of windows machines at home, running enterprise for whatever reason, dont look up vlmcsd and definitely dont look up the kms srv records to put on your home domain

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      Except it’s not perfect for gaming. If you happen to have titles purchased through the Xbox/MS storefronts, you won’t be able to play them. The version of windows you speak of lacks three critical system packages that allow UWP based games to work. Xbox Identity Provider, TCUI, and speech to text (some games rely on that for accessibility). If you file any bug report or ask for support from the development, they’ll discard your ticket when they look at logs (unsupported OS). You also gimp yourself on feature sets.

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        You can install all the M$ Store and Xbox apps. Afterwards the XBox app will tell you all the other apps missing and a 1 click button to install each. It’s just a nice clean blank slate to start with. It doesn’t even have .net or vcredist installed.

        What missing feature sets?

        Edit: I myself install 2 needed dependencies to get Winget running after a fresh install. One has to do with UWP.

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    Windows in general is just fucking hostile to use. Everything they do now just seems like they are spitting in your face and laughing at you.

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      Fr, i remember windows taking longer to setup,Some Linux Distros only rlly had issues with secureboot(I turn on secure boot so windows doesn’t freak out) and everything was ready.

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    Linux Mint isn’t perfect, but at least it’s not constantly trying to steal my shit or force something on me that I don’t want.

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      Games is still what keeps me on the absolute shit show that is Windows. Proton has come a long way in solving this problem but there are still enough issues especially with new games that I have to have a Windows partition.

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        I ripped the bandaid off last month, there’s definitely fiddling and hdr is still in early days (works in gamescope, but found that can have issues with my nvidia card), I’ve been playing veilguard on proton ge for the last week, and proton experimental supports dlss frame gen now which is huge for me.

        It’s definitely in the good enough state imo, and it seems to rapidly be getting better.

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      Haha, I was going to post this very meme.

      I finally moved completely over from Chrome to Firefox this weekend. Fuck Edge, and fuck Chrome.

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    MS isn’t bothered because the vast majority of people don’t give a shit. “Many” is doing a lot of lifting in that paragraph. Its probably more accurate to say “…a few people distrust Edge…”

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      That’s a shame since literally everyone should distrust Edge, given Microsoft’s history with browsers (and everything else). I don’t think anyone matches Microsoft’s caviler attitude of “We know there are hundreds of gaping security holes that allow attackers to take full admin control of your computer, but we’re just going to mark those bugs as will-not-fix and blame the users when something goes wrong.”

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    Funny because Microsoft also recently dropped support for Firefox for Xbox GamePass Cloud Gaming on Android. I say “dropped support” but really they stopped letting you use the purpose built app and are now forcing you to use browser but the only “supported” browsers are Chrome and Edge. Firefox works, but they forcefully disconnected me after 5 minutes so it’s not a matter of compatibility. They just want that traffic going through Edge ideally but they do still support Chrome, for now.

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      As someone that often ends up doing a lot of web development, Safari is the rough modern equivalent of Internet Explorer.

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        How so?

        I use Firefox most of the time, but if I really need to stretch the battery life I’ll use Safari. It seems significantly faster and more power efficient than anything else I’ve used. If it had better plugin support, it’d be my daily driver. Can’t say I’ve ever had issues with it rendering a page.

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          Orion is a pretty sick browser letting you run Chrome and Firefox extensions in a WebKit browser. It looks/feels very close to Safari, and though having those extensions sounds super glitchy it’s actually very well-polished.

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        I’m a web developer but I absolutely love Safari. I seriously don’t understand the hate. From an end-user perspective it’s sooo much less clunky too.

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      Mac ain’t that bad, I just wish apple didn’t make repairs hard and stuff.
      Edit:Ios and Ipados and Tvos kinda sucks bcs they are very locked down,For some reason mac (Which is unix-like like linux) is not locked down, its only locked down to the hardware thats works with it.

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        For me, having it locked down is the selling point. I used to be big into jailbreaking but for 90% of users it’s better this way.

        For development work though obviously having it not so locked down is kind of necessary. Luckily I don’t write apps from iOS or tvOS so it’s a nonissue for me.

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          Yeah it is it better for most users, but I started finding that annoying.

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        I agree with you there, but after being Android and Windows for years, being in the Apple ecosystem feels like a breath of fresh air

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      The only Windows people I know are the Java developers at my workplace and it shows. Containerization and Linux/UNIX conventions are definitely not followed and everything’s a clusterfuck with those guys.