I saw a post that talked about racism towards people and when I talked about it the response I got was very heated and a person even called lemmy.world a community of ‘hitlerites’

I have been around for a week or so and this is my first time seeing such explicit vulgar reaction towards another community, is this a one-off or should I block hexbear?

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    Hexbear users will bully you to hell the very second you say something they disagree with. In my case, I said South Park is a funny show. They also think Putin is a good guy and at the same time they pretend 90% of their users are trans. Basically it’s a bunch of douche kids playing revolutionaries and intimating anyone they disagree with. My 2 cents.

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      I love going there and bullying them. Its my fav pass time when they had enough they just delete all my post cause they are malding! They also like to call it their platform which I always correct them on …

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    They mandate trigger warnings for pictures of cheese.

    Base line Lemmy has a left skew. Hexbear people are the basis for probably a quarter of conservatives talking points.

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    They seem like grad users in the fact that no one outside their instance wants to federate with their toxic instance. Who would’ve guessed that a highly charged instances calls people “Hitlerites” as an insult. (Obv I lack context here regarding the comment.)

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    Note: being on Lemmy for about a year, I didn’t live through the early days of this place. Here’s what I can recollect, as neutrally given as possible.

    TL;DR The recent conflicts between two politically different groups on Lemmy have radicalized many people, and many Hexbear residents in particular. Unless you are to discuss the far-left ideas and are very radical about disadvantaged groups, you are safe to block it.

    Hexbear is a far-left (as in actually communist) anti-discrimination community, initially more of a safe haven to promote equality and foster a healthy and welcoming place for leftists to come together.

    With core developers of Lemmy also being far-left, Hexbear naturally fitted the landscape along with the official Lemmy.ml, heavy far-left Lemmygrad.ml and others.

    As time went on, however, all sorts of left-leaning and apolitical folks, not just far-left, came to the platform, filling other instances like Lemmy.world (now the most populated of them all), sh.itjust.works and many others.

    As a result, Lemmy has two groups of people with radically different political views: one is a group of more or less organized far-left, and the other is everyone else, most commonly liberals. This distinction has caused a lot of conflicts and heated discussions based on political adherence.

    Most notable case is latest US elections. The far left side generally called not to vote Democrat as Biden has failed to deliver on many of his promises and empowered Israel to commit war crimes in Palestine, while the liberal audience called to vote Democrat to not let Republicans take the lead, which may arguably lead to an even worse outcome than unaccountable Dems can make.

    This divide has raised a lot of mutual hostility, brigading, and uncivil behavior, which has radicalized many on both sides of the conflict, the consequences of which you have got to experience.

    What to do with that is up to you to decide. Hexbear is very politically uniform and very political overall, so if you’re not here to discuss communism, you won’t lose much and will gain additional peace of mind.

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      This is by far the best and most informative answer. The only thing it’s missing as another couple commenters pointed out is hexbear is all about their oversized memes and emojis, making anytime you happen upon one of their posts extremely conspicuous (even if politics aren’t being discussed).

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      I’m being a little pedantic here, but “far left (as in actually communist)” wasn’t a thing until these recent online debates and forming groups started putting labels on groups and putting them into boxes. Communists are not necessarily left, nor far left. It feels a bit weird to ‘put’ them anywhere. That said, I know nothing about hexbear or this little group on Lemmy and how they identify…

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        It is unclear what this excerpt is meant to demonstrate.

        By default, the terms “left” and “right” are describing the level of economic equality/freedom in a given society. The left call for economic equality and redistribution of resources, either through peaceful cooperation and abundance or through heavy state intervention, the right stands for private property above equality and freedom to act in personal financial interest.

        Communists hold economic equality as paramount and vital for society, and put it above all else; in a perfect communist world, everyone always has access to everything that is available in an economy, and as such, there is no money (you can already take anything you need) and no point to privatize anything as there’s no revenue to speak of.

        Thereby, communism is far left.

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          I assume the rest of it would explain how Stalinism created an economic and social heirarchy at express odds with real Marxism but that still leaves you with real communists being the left. The author is ultimately crying about humanity’s insistence that words mean things and trying to take the word communist away from communists.

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    It’s something every sane person should block as soon as they join Lemmy.

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    https://sh.itjust.works/c/meanwhileongrad

    One word, Tankies.

    The community I shared rounds up posts that really portray their Phalusophy Philosophy really well. Now you would need to scroll down a bit to see some posts from hexbear specifically.

    but I cannot recommend you enough to stay well away from hexbear, lemmygrad and if possible .ml

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    It’s an instance that became known for brigading other instances to “dunk” on anyone who has remotely different ideas than they do, as well as spamming oversized emojis and pictures of pigs shitting on their own testicles. They have been defederated by most instances for good reason, as they always showed up enmasse to completely derail discussion and their own stated purpose of federating with other instances was to “dunk on liberals and dismantle Western propaganda”. Their users would harass people in DMs for weeks on end if that person said something they didn’t like. I was there to see this happen in several instances before they all defederated from Hexbear and it almost made me quit Lemmy entirely.

    Below are some examples of various instances considering federating with Hexbear, only for Hexbesr’s users to cause enough problems to get defederated. The threads themselves are best viewed from an instance that federates with Hexbear in order to see the awful behaviour for yourself, and the lemmy.ca thread has several more examples of this.

    https://lemmy.ca/post/3326347 https://lemm.ee/post/4543536 https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/2017079 https://lemmy.world/post/249833

    Do note that a lot of Hexbear users have alternate accounts on lemmy.ml and midwest.social (because nobody wants to federate with Hexbear), and a lot of these people will be in this very thread trying to defend Hexbear. Don’t be fooled by them. Hexbear is a toxic cesspit.

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    It’s a tankie instance. You’re not missing anything important or reality-based by blocking it. You should also block lemmy.ml.

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    Yes block hexbear. It’s one of the first things I did on lemmy. Save yourself the toxicity of dealing with them.

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    Oh another one of these

    Short answer:

    “What if 4chan was communist instead of neonazi”

    Similar level of assholety and low post quality. Better politics. Overall don’t bother, not worth it.

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    Hexbear, lemmygrad and (in great part) lemmy.ml are tankie instances.

    They basically deny any crimes of Stalin, Mao etc…

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      I mean Mao greatly regretted his plans and was very sad they didnt work, he went onto become a vegan and grow his own food as to not get the food meant for the workers

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        Responsible for estimated 40 million deaths on the low end.

        “Oopsie, my b.”

        All is forgiven.

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            Mao played a personal role in organising the mass repressions and established a system of execution quotas,[175] which were often exceeded.[165] He defended these killings as necessary for the securing of power.[176]

            You ever love a group of people so much you personally set an execution quota on them?

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        So all hitler had to do was say he regretted his plans and all would be fine?