I’ve been lurking reddit lately, to see what propaganda the normies in the US are exposed to, and I found this thread fucking hilarious.
Every comment is complaining about how this will be the death of reddit. None of them realize Reddit already died years ago, and they’re just getting high off the ashes.
that sub used to be good, til it got astroturfed during the election month, its more or less a politics clone sub, with a hint of tech whining. i got “reported” for reporting too much people. trying to eliminate the spam on your sub.
This really isn’t true. Specific subreddits do, because their mods want to buddy up to the admins. With OP’s search settings, I do get one of the posts they got (only one though), and most of the results are drowned out by posts about some guy called Lemmy. But sorting by New, there’s plenty of results even from today and the past week. Subreddits announcing their fallback instance, a canadian subreddit discovering lemmy.ca, people asking questions about Lemmy. Lemmy-specific subreddits also show up without a problem. And everything I saw, except for that one post from OP’s image, was positive about it.
I think people who have fully left Reddit are falling for confirmation bias when they hear that a post got removed for mentioning Lemmy. While plenty are still up despite doing the same. It’s either because of the other contents of the post, or because of the subreddit it was posted in. If it was about promoting Lemmy alone, all posts that promote Lemmy would be gone, which isn’t the case.
i had heard in a forum site that there was a mod that knows reddit admins, a direct line of communication to them, and he was discussing the levels of shadowbanning tiers. apparently shadow bans has tiers, 4 and 5 being the lowest, and its considered a temp “ban” while one is for the botters/evaders who make multiple accounts, which is usually 1 year to a perma ban. and ban filters, are supposed to have 1 year limit for the most severe, ban evaders, but they seem to have changed it this year.
also the most annoying this, is mods can crossban you for just visiting a controversial sub.
they made a post, got tons of downvotes, then complained about downvotes which also got downvoted, got caught by automod because of downvotes, appealed, got unbanned, then deleted account or got purged because nothing even shows in modlog. the account was on sjw, posts were to communities in .ml and lw
Oi. I remember them. They definitely came in extra hot. Clashing with a culture they had no experience with. And then wondering what everyone else’s problem was. 🙄
they dont show it on reddit, and we have the r/modsupport how they are constantly complaining, reddit/ and mods arnt being transparent on why people are getting banned. and no rhyme or reason why people are getting banned too.
sounds like shadowbanned. if you search for the user/(account name) it will tell if the user is suspended, doesnt exist(shadowbanned), even deleted accounts. i checked it that way and it says acct has been deleted.
Lemmy has a feature called federation, which means that anyone can setup their own lemmy server and run it how they want, but it will connect to all the other servers, so they share the same posts. lemmy.ml is one server, but it has some tankies who are people who think authoritarian regimes, like soviet russia, were good.
Lemmy.ml is a lemmy community primarily composed of socialists. Because socialists are highly critical of racist behaviour, white supremacist tropes, US exceptionalism/western chauvinism, imperialist attitudes (many of which bleed in well-meaning liberals), and capitalist countries, they don’t tolerate such things in their community and are very critical when they see such things in other communities, which is often met with distrust and dislike because nobody enjoys being confronted. .ml are very confrontational and they get met with confrontation. There are also some legit problems with a few moderators expressing transphobic beliefs, which is why i personally choose hexbear as my main community. Kinda sad that people here have such a red scare as if it were communists and not fascists in governments all over the western world right now and increasingly so.
so lemmy.ml is basically some reddit subs, except they probably got banned from reddit for the things you mentioned(banned anyone even if the users align with thier beliefs but disagreed on some things). and came here.
“Tankie instances” don’t tolerate transphobia or western exceptionalism or Zionism. Lib instances don’t tolerate questioning of US State Department propaganda (been banned from many comms for questioning the validity of Wikipedia articles on geopolitically charged topics) but will tolerate Zionism (downvoted but not banned). I’d rather have the former
zionism, pro-israeli is probably the worst right now, i was banned r/worldnews temporarily for pointing out who was the sole instigator of the war(BIBI), someone freaked out and said something along the lines, why don you become PM then, and then ranted, (i assume he was the turd that reported me.) normally you can tell who reported you, but i always CHECK my last message, so i know who it is. even “israelis” own population knows he did it, why is it only people outside of the country supporting him.
I can only see one of those two posts (the second one) and it’s pretty well reasoned (I don’t agree though, just saying they did provide their reasoning in more than enough words imo). If you’re interested, here’s the link.
To summarize it:
UI worse than New Reddit (I personally agree with it being at least just as bad, that’s why I didn’t go to Lemmy)
Big instances are laggy (remember, the post is from 7 months ago not today, so don’t compare the statement to how they are now)
Bad mod tools (a common complaint I see about Lemmy)
Too much far left and tech focus (another common complaint)
It’s not active enough (yet another common complaint)
Shitty mods (I disagree with the specific claim made about them being worse than Reddit ones, but I’ve definitely seen at least one shitty mod here so far, and too many are neglectful)
Lemmy developers are Maoist (fact iirc)
The community is filled with far left extremists, Mao worshippers, dictator bootlickers, and genocide supporters (the one actually unreasonable take imo which indicates they went to the wrong instance)
The user got banned by the automod in the first one.
ashenblood 45 points 7 months ago
You got banned by the automod because your account was less than 24 hours old and you received 40 downvotes on a post. That filter is in place to combat spambots and trolls, because normal users are unlikely to trigger it by getting so many downvotes so soon after making an account
I messaged the admin and they already unbanned your account. …
I wonder why? I have been here for a couple of days and it’s nice so far.
Because Reddit removes posts promoting Lemmy
I’ve been lurking reddit lately, to see what propaganda the normies in the US are exposed to, and I found this thread fucking hilarious.
Every comment is complaining about how this will be the death of reddit. None of them realize Reddit already died years ago, and they’re just getting high off the ashes.
Using “normies” unironically is one of the reasons Lemmy is a huge turn off. Normal people don’t talk like that, and it makes you look stuck up.
Yeah, you’re not wrong…
that sub used to be good, til it got astroturfed during the election month, its more or less a politics clone sub, with a hint of tech whining. i got “reported” for reporting too much people. trying to eliminate the spam on your sub.
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no wonder they wanted api gone as well, it allowed people to ban evade, since its not using the site directly.
This really isn’t true. Specific subreddits do, because their mods want to buddy up to the admins. With OP’s search settings, I do get one of the posts they got (only one though), and most of the results are drowned out by posts about some guy called Lemmy. But sorting by New, there’s plenty of results even from today and the past week. Subreddits announcing their fallback instance, a canadian subreddit discovering lemmy.ca, people asking questions about Lemmy. Lemmy-specific subreddits also show up without a problem. And everything I saw, except for that one post from OP’s image, was positive about it.
I think people who have fully left Reddit are falling for confirmation bias when they hear that a post got removed for mentioning Lemmy. While plenty are still up despite doing the same. It’s either because of the other contents of the post, or because of the subreddit it was posted in. If it was about promoting Lemmy alone, all posts that promote Lemmy would be gone, which isn’t the case.
i had heard in a forum site that there was a mod that knows reddit admins, a direct line of communication to them, and he was discussing the levels of shadowbanning tiers. apparently shadow bans has tiers, 4 and 5 being the lowest, and its considered a temp “ban” while one is for the botters/evaders who make multiple accounts, which is usually 1 year to a perma ban. and ban filters, are supposed to have 1 year limit for the most severe, ban evaders, but they seem to have changed it this year.
also the most annoying this, is mods can crossban you for just visiting a controversial sub.
They probably went to .ml or a tankie instance
they made a post, got tons of downvotes, then complained about downvotes which also got downvoted, got caught by automod because of downvotes, appealed, got unbanned, then deleted account or got purged because nothing even shows in modlog. the account was on sjw, posts were to communities in .ml and lw
This right here is why the public mod log is one of the best things on the internet.
like i said, nothing shows in modlog. user is ModerateImprovement on sh.itjust.works, i’m guessing based on that reddit post
Oi. I remember them. They definitely came in extra hot. Clashing with a culture they had no experience with. And then wondering what everyone else’s problem was. 🙄
Ah them. I believe that’s one of the trolls that I blocked in my client.
But .ml says a lot lol
I don’t get why people hate on .ml
They cater to tankies.
they dont show it on reddit, and we have the r/modsupport how they are constantly complaining, reddit/ and mods arnt being transparent on why people are getting banned. and no rhyme or reason why people are getting banned too.
So, it was a skill issue
sounds like shadowbanned. if you search for the user/(account name) it will tell if the user is suspended, doesnt exist(shadowbanned), even deleted accounts. i checked it that way and it says acct has been deleted.
this is my first acc on lemmy, i had no idea that was a seperate login. whats ML?
Lemmy has a feature called federation, which means that anyone can setup their own lemmy server and run it how they want, but it will connect to all the other servers, so they share the same posts. lemmy.ml is one server, but it has some tankies who are people who think authoritarian regimes, like soviet russia, were good.
same here, i thought i had my account details wrong because i dint know i was trying to login to ML, apparenlty theres a lemmy.world too, same issue.
Lemmy.ml is a lemmy community primarily composed of socialists. Because socialists are highly critical of racist behaviour, white supremacist tropes, US exceptionalism/western chauvinism, imperialist attitudes (many of which bleed in well-meaning liberals), and capitalist countries, they don’t tolerate such things in their community and are very critical when they see such things in other communities, which is often met with distrust and dislike because nobody enjoys being confronted. .ml are very confrontational and they get met with confrontation. There are also some legit problems with a few moderators expressing transphobic beliefs, which is why i personally choose hexbear as my main community. Kinda sad that people here have such a red scare as if it were communists and not fascists in governments all over the western world right now and increasingly so.
so lemmy.ml is basically some reddit subs, except they probably got banned from reddit for the things you mentioned(banned anyone even if the users align with thier beliefs but disagreed on some things). and came here.
“Tankie instances” don’t tolerate transphobia or western exceptionalism or Zionism. Lib instances don’t tolerate questioning of US State Department propaganda (been banned from many comms for questioning the validity of Wikipedia articles on geopolitically charged topics) but will tolerate Zionism (downvoted but not banned). I’d rather have the former
zionism, pro-israeli is probably the worst right now, i was banned r/worldnews temporarily for pointing out who was the sole instigator of the war(BIBI), someone freaked out and said something along the lines, why don you become PM then, and then ranted, (i assume he was the turd that reported me.) normally you can tell who reported you, but i always CHECK my last message, so i know who it is. even “israelis” own population knows he did it, why is it only people outside of the country supporting him.
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Welcome in from the cold. We have hot cocoa and blankets.
Vile. You offer hot cocoa with no whipped cream!? Aboslutely terrible.
Hey, I don’t like when the whipped cream gets on the tip of my nose, all right? Let’s fight.
Cheers.
I’m responsible for the whipped cream, here you go
Thanks. 😂
Do you have 🗿 here?
Search manipulation or just shitty Reddit search?
Google search for “lemmy” site:reddit.com/r/redditalternatives provides different top results:
https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/18x59m7/its_time_to_admit_lemmy_has_won_the_the_biggest/
https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/151v9vo/lemmy_explained_in_a_nutshell/
https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/14ier24/for_anyone_wondering_how_lemmy_works_and_is/
shitty reddit search.
Its 100% on purpose, those arent the most relevant or highest rated posts, cherrypicked
cause one half is porn, the other is about linux
they went after the OF accts recently, if people wanted OF porn, they go to non-PH and thier affiliate sites.
Maybe because Reddit sees Lemmy as a concurrent.
I don’t have the answer but welcome.
Thanks
I can only see one of those two posts (the second one) and it’s pretty well reasoned (I don’t agree though, just saying they did provide their reasoning in more than enough words imo). If you’re interested, here’s the link.
To summarize it:
The user got banned by the automod in the first one.
https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/1e0xugs/stay_away_from_lemmy/
Maybe OP got a bad experience on .ml or accidentally used hexbear
Rent free in your brains, gahdaym
Fuck you @iStone@feddit.org!
There ya go.
Possibly landed in Hexbear. In combination with Spaz’s purge of all things Lemmy encouraging.