• cetaceanprayers@lemmy.world
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    2 hours ago

    when they started denying real progressive candidates a shot at running for president. clinton, pelosi, schumer, all old, soft pussies too afraid to shake the status quo.

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      Yes, surely people capable of denying someone popular are soft pussies. It’s the opposite, they impose their will upon the party. Evil, not pussies.

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    Corpo whores and owners lapdogs that’s who is stuffing the Democrats now

    It is fucking disgusting

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    14 hours ago

    They’re complicit. They are bought by the same billionaires as the Republicans. As long as you can purchase a politician, we have no functional democracy

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    Obama did it (kind of); he moved the party line to be policy oriented instead of stunts and cutthroat politics.

    At the same time, he never gained a sufficient majority to enact his platform (in truth we’re lucky we got the affordable care act). Biden ran into similar issues with what was technically a majority but that had weak votes (e.g. Manchin).

    Honestly the problem is the Senate; Democrats just can’t get past the threshold that would let them actually govern. So we get Democratic presidents that appear ineffective … when really we just have a Senate that’s broadly ineffective at doing anything that isn’t center right.

    A Promised Land by Obama is an extremely good book if you want to understand the modern democratic party. Obama did a lot to get the spark back but also was in a very difficult position.

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      What Obama did should be judged by what he really did, not promised, not described, not was close to do.

      You can say whatever you want if it depends on majority which won’t ever support you, and then claim that was your real intention.

      This is simpler than average intrigue between friends or at workplace, or even of deciding whose turn it is to go for groceries, and politics are not simpler.

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          Are you trying to pass an amendment? They actually had a supermajority for 72 days. Not that they didn’t get anything done, mind you, but the point stands.

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            The filibuster is a thing and that regularly prevents anything from getting done without 60 votes.

            Obama in his book (A Promised Land) talks about this and how his biggest regret is not ending the filibuster as his first action because it proceeded to cripple his entire administration and agenda for the majority of his presidency.

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    19 hours ago

    Obama was a huge wuss. He came in on promises of change and did nothing but continue to placate corporations.

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      Dude had the mandate Trump thinks he has now to fuck the big banks and instead came in meekly asked for buy in from his opponents on everything. Huge wuss indeed.