I feel like it would be best to proxy YouTube, or subscribe to paid indie channels like nebula, but without a user base and without ad revenue or subscription revenue I don’t know how quality content can come to PeerTube. Maybe I’m just missing the content but when I’ve checked it’s all very low quality, just random unedited webcam vblogs mostly.
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I’ve found better stuff by asking around for good channels, or learning that folks I follow have made a peertube channel, than I have by trying to use the interface. The discovery isn’t especially good.
There are only a couple decent channels I’ve watched but I get the honest impression there are more, they’re just burried in stuff. Also depends what you’re looking for. There are far more Foss youtubers who mirror over there and make decently high quality stuff than is available for a a lot of other genres of video
There definitely isn’t much, but I think there’s potentially more than is immediately obvious
@Cris_Color discovery is of the main features the federated apps have to improve. Urgently HoHOhoHO
While I agree, I also think in the case of peertube part of it might also be that there aren’t enough people watching for viewership to clearly highlight quality videos
It’s definitely part of it but also there is no way to natively feature specific channels, and the algorithms they have are completely borked. If I go to “trending” and the first video is 3 years old, that’s a problem. Also an extraordinary percentage of the content is in other languages, with no way to filter them. You can select a specific language and it just does nothing. These are just a few things that seem fairly easy to implement and would go a long way to improving the experience.
No good content??? My man!!! Have you not heard of Nicole??? The fediverse chick!!! Watch as she mindlessly smokes a cigerette as she stares blankly at her monitor.
Or you could try Veronica, as she uploads several videos every minute. All about Linux. Nobody knows how she does it…
I have some favorites
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https://makertube.net/accounts/michellemay about stichong, sewing etc
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https://subscribeto.me/accounts/gbryant technology and videogames
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https://video.canadiancivil.com/accounts/shifter active mobility and biking
Wait! Shifter is on peertube? Cool! Love that guy.
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I haven’t checked it out yet, but the same could be said about the early days of YouTube. Professional cameras weren’t that common for the first years of it.
Yeah but that’s not the case for almost any other brand new video sharing platform. Because now people know how to content create. But they need to make money.
Do some searching. There are lots of great channels. I’ve posted them the last 3 or 4 times this question was asked.
without ad revenue or subscription revenue I don’t know how quality content can come to PeerTube
AdSense makes up a relatively small portion of revenue for most creators. Their profit comes much more from:
- Sponsor spots
- Direct contributions
- Merch/personal products
Good point about the other funding methods.
yeah this is a bit like musicians or authors complaining that nobody buys their CDs and hardcovers anymore.
YouTube can kick you to the curb just for saying fuck and demonetizing you
I mean, your preferred PeerTube instance can do the same. The major difference is there would probably be a human doing it.
totally, but nothing is stopping you from moving to another one while still having access to the protocol. or if you can afford it, starting your own
Moving to another one that lacks the exposure of the one you were on. You could start your own but it wouldn’t have the same traffic. It’s the same problem, just on a smaller scale.
that’s totally valid. I don’t really use peertube and so my question is, since the program doesn’t have that many users anyways, how many creators are relying on getting views from their own instance? I thought they just advertise their channel to outside platforms
I know of at least one. The channel is called The Linux Experiment.
I enjoy his content a lot and really appreciate the fact that hés putting his content on peertube.
I hope people enjoying Peertube are supporting the project and creators financially. Otherwise it won’t have any future sadly.
Well, like all of the fediverse. It’s a bunch of volunteers who run the instances out of pocket. They need donations to keep going.
I’m old enough to remember a time before YouTube. When YouTube started, it wasn’t about making money. There were no ads. No subscriptions. No sponsors. In the early days of YouTube it was just backyard videos. But it didn’t take long for the connect to start getting good because it was the first of its kind, and everyone started using it. The problem now is, to convince people to use something else that, essentially does the same thing, but doesn’t make people money. Good luck with that.
Money corrupted YouTube. And now, the idea that people can be “content creators” for a living means that there will likely never be a mainstream, ad free, subscription free video platform, where people just make videos in their spare time. Peer tube is cool, but your not going to see high quality, curated content like you get on YouTube. An I think that’s probably a good thing.
YouTube was founded by 3 former PayPal employees and bought by Google for $1.65 billion just over a year after its creation. It launched its partner program in 2007 which is when people could start directly making money from the site - but for most big people on the platform, making money was the eventual goal anyway. There was always a plan for YouTube to make oodles of cash and for people to make money making videos on it.
If PeerTube doesn’t have some type of monetary incentive, nobody except for mild hobbyists making subpar content are going to migrate over.
I remember it too. I just also remember how much of a quality improvement career YouTubers made. It’s still a good and valid thing imo, they make good videos for money. All platforms should facilitate that. Not facilitating that brings us back to an internet I honestly don’t think had a lot of value, just random family videos mostly.
With instance subscriptions you could cut out the huge cut Google takes and make creator unions essentially much easier to make.
I like that YouTube has higher quality content now and I don’t mind that creators expect to be compensated for what is now much more work. I do mind that YouTube treats them like second class citizens and can take however much of the pie they can get away with.
I loved the early days of youtube. Brought us such gems as Chicken Police and Crazy Rainbow Lady.
Take a look at the pinned post at !peertube@lemmy.wtf and also check out PeerTube.wtf/home for a list as well.
There’s plenty of channels to follow, but obviously not the same amount of content like on YouTube.
Space Quest Historian, for adventure games https://spectra.video/c/spacequesthistorian/videos
Who’s also got two active channels on YT.
There’s some good channels on TILVids and Kolektiva.media, and if you’re looking for something specific, Sepiasearch is able to search across all peertube instances.
Am I allowed to throw my hat in the ring? I’m definitely No expert and I’m constantly learning, but I have vods of my live streams, gaming and tech, and I’m running Fireside Fedi a show about talking with different folks around the Fediverse. Let me know if I can post the link. I don’t want to self promote of that’s not what folks are looking for here.
Aldo I would say that we’re still very early in the Fediverse life cycle. Majority of these folks aren’t paid or are a shoestring budget and solo with tiny teams. So if we want to see this experiment survive we have to do more than what we’ve done in the past.
Talk to content creators you enjoy. Let them know you’d like to see their content on the Fediverse. Especially if you’re a patreon member. Create content yourself. The Fediverse will succeed or fail based on our actions.
The internet wasn’t born in a day and a LOT of projects failed, because everyone took the easy centralized way. This time we have to fight for it to remove their claws.
Let me know if I can post the link. I don’t want to self promote of that’s not what folks are looking for here.
Go for it.
Yes but good luck finding it.
There’s a couple youtubers that mirror their content on PeerTube. The Giddy Stitcher for example uploads to Makertube.net
This is what has stopped me from switching to Peertube.
Nebula is pretty good, though alot of it just doesn’t interest me. I find it’s more affordable and feel the handful of creators I follow there are worth the cost.
As much as I want to switch away from YouTube, it’s my main source of entertainment and I don’t see the creators I follow switching to any other platforms anytime soon.
without ad revenue or subscription revenue I don’t know how quality content can come to PeerTube.
I saw a video where a YouTube channel broke down their income (I’ll try and find it but there are probably similar ones out there) and the amount coming directly from ads was quite small. Other sources of money include:
- Sponsorship
- YouTube’s built in subscription
- External subscriptions like Patreon
- Merchandise
- Physical media deals
Like Spotify, the cut from streaming isn’t great but those on it can leverage their profile in other ways.
The Fediverse still has a bit of a problem with monetisation but Ghost is working on joining and that is the equivalent of Substack with different subscription levels and I think most Fediverse services could do something similar. So Peertube could build in a “subscribe” button so people who enjoy your content could sign up to throw you a buck a month. Obviously a similar system could be added to the instance so you could donate to them, as hosting video is expensive.
I do wonder if we need a FediPay/PayFed service that other services could just plug in, so you’d have a central account across your Fediverse identities - subscribing on Pixelfed could get you subscriber exclusive Peertube content.
Although, looking around, this channel has a “support” button with PayPal and Patreon links. It’s a little crude but works.
For ease of use, it probably has to be a bit slicker and “one-click” but it’s a start.
Would be interesting if Liberapay could somehow be built into PeerTube. So you simply click the “Support” button and it asks how much and then another click. Done. The rest is handled by Liberapay, which have been set up earlier.
Yeah, it has to be frictionless or you lose people along the way.
