• wise_pancake@lemmy.ca
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    the email to Aboussad reads. “It is also concerning that you have not apologized to the company, and in fact you have shown no remorse for the effect that your actions have had and will have.”

    Obviously there were going to fire these employees, especially the one who gave notice then did this.

    But why the fuck would anyone be like “yOu DiDn’T eVeN aPoLoGiZe To ThE cOmPaNy”? That’s the stupidest god damn thing I’ve heard since “Liberation Day”

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      That email was almost certainly written by lawyers with the intention of supporting MS in court, should it come down to that.

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        Bingo. Lots of stupid things at this level boil down to legal protection. You’ll see it everywhere once you learn and look.

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          “Lucky we’re not countersuing! Oh the damages you are certain to be causing in the futureeee, the burns”

          Actually now that I think about it maybe this was a multimillion dollar protest. The headlines have been published for and wide. I bet a few people spent more time feeling guilty than working right after as well - imagine one of them quitting. Still somewhat hard to believe it would lose them contracts but perhaps there will be potential customers who want to avoid connection with Microsoft until this blows over.

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        that makes sense. i hate the fact that such a blatant play at covering your bases could hold up in any court. no matter the legal fineprint, it takes two functioning braincells to realise what’s going on here

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      But why the fuck would anyone be like “yOu DiDn’T eVeN aPoLoGiZe To ThE cOmPaNy”?

      Frame the debate. MS doesn’t have to justify their profiteering if they can talk about the employee. The attention span of the public is limited.

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      Because law. At every opportunity, make it seem like the employees were not blowing the whistle, but purposefully harming the company.

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    Microsoft has policy that prevents it from retaliatory actions against human rights violations. Court should rule Microsoft violated its own policies…

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      prevents it from retaliatory actions against human rights violations

      They can’t retaliate if someone violates human rights?

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        They’re referencing what the second protester (Vaniya Agrawal) mentioned in her email:

        Know that Microsoft’s human rights statement prohibits retaliation against anyone who raises a human rights-related concern: Human rights statement | Microsoft CSR

        The Microsoft Global Human Rights Statement has a “Foundational principles” section that says:

        Our commitment to human rights defenders: Our commitment to respecting and advancing human rights includes respect and support for the work of human rights defenders around the world. Human rights defenders are people who, individually or with others, engage in activities and advocacy that contribute to the protection of human rights and the rule of law, good governance, tolerance, and diversity and inclusion. Human rights defenders face persistent physical, social, economic, and psychological threats. Microsoft does not tolerate threats, intimidation, retaliation, physical, legal or cyber-attacks against human rights defenders. This commitment extends to all human rights defenders, including those working on issues related to Microsoft and those exercising their rights of freedom of expression, association, and peaceful assembly, including to challenge or protest aspects of our own business.

        Microsoft is clearly declining to fulfill its commitment as it is written in its statement.

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    The fact that they’re asking her to apologize is Just ass backwards.

    They should apologize, and look into the issue, and possibly, stop, war profiting.

    That’s okay. They’re going to lose a lot of Windows users, forcing them to upgrade Perfectly good computers.

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      I wish that were the case. But I doubt most people will ditch Windows. They’ll just pony up for a new computer. They’ll certainly lose some users. But Windows will still remain as top dog, most likely. And I doubt that’ll ever change so long as traditional desktop computers and laptops still exist.

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    IBM had a role in the holocaust. Those numbers tattooed on everyone in the concentration camp? Those were IBM ID numbers for the punch cards.

    If IBM staff protested about their role, it’s been lost to history. But it’s repeating today with Gaza and the staff who speak out are being demonized. Israel’s Lavender AI is being used to kill civilians. History will prove this woman and the other employees right in the end.

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    I would have been surprised if they hadn’t fired her. Good on those two for causing a ruckus for a cause they believe in though. Nonviolent one too, well done.

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      They were probably going to quit over personal morality anyway, so good for them for using their exit for positive. At least they can leave with their self-respect and dignity intact, and the respect of their co-workers and the world. Somewhere there is a moral employer who will appreciate them.

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    the best thing i did was spend last month deleting the partitions in my desktop and laptop and installing mint.

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      I’ve been on Arch for a little while now, and Kubuntu before that. After Valve launched Proton on Steam, I found myself almost never booting into Windows. Once I ran out of disk space, it was an easy decision to completely purge Windows from my machine. Haven’t looked back in years.

      Fuck Microsoft for trying to control my computer. Finally nice not having it reinstall Candy Crush after every update. And none of that copilot or online account bullshit.

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        That’s such a nice thing about Linux and FOSS in general. The issues you run into are different than what you may be used to with Windows, but at least the system and its developers aren’t working against you.

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          And if you don’t like the way one distro does things, you can switch to another one, and there are dozens to choose from. With Windows, of course there is only one distro, and if you don’t like it, too bad.

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      Heck yeah. Once in installed Mint on my PC at home, it was only a matter of weeks before I double checked my backed up files and nuked my windows partition.

      I still have the windows partition at work that I never use, and I have heard some bad stories about machines getting wiped when IT upgrades people to win11, so it might just have a little accident in its sleep.

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    “I’m not interested in arguing” -someone who knows they’re in the wrong, but still holds the power

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    It is also concerning that you have not apologized to the company, and in fact you have shown no remorse for the effect that your actions have had and will have.

    the fucking audacity. i mean, we all knew how it would end, but talk about 5d reverse psychology mindgames

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      Only trouble is Microsoft clearly doesn’t care about negative reviews of their applications, because they’ve been receiving negative reviews for years now.

      It’s not like you can even avoid using their products, personally you can install Linux but you’re probably going to still have to use a Windows device at work, and business is where they make most of their profit anyway.

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        Yeah, work is where they get you. I’m fortunate to be able to use Linux at work too, but the company is still paying for my M365 account which I use in a browser for meetings and communication.

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        They still have presence in for example the Play store. A review can cost little time to place, yet it can affect a lot. Though avoid mentioning certain words censored by the play store.

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          Is “id rather take a shot to the back of the throat from Andy Dick, than be stuck using Microsoft Office” approved for the app store?

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    Linux isn’t perfect but I don’t have to put up with that kind of bullshit from the makers of my OS. Glad I switched long ago and never looked back (except for the Windows laptop I keep around for games)

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      Just out of curiosity, what games do you need a windows machine to play that proton can’t make work on Linux?

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        A lot of games I want to play with mods, the authors only release Windows installers. A great example is Battletech, the HBS remake. There’s a “BTA advanced” mod I like to run and it takes a lot of screwing around to get it to work properly in Linux, but it’s a few clicks on Windows. I will agree Proton has come a LONG way and some titles are perfect, but I get so little gaming time that when I sit down, I don’t want to fucking around with swapping various Glorious Eggroll versions of Wine, or wondering which version of .net I need to get the game to run under Linux. On Windows it “just works”.

        I do have a few titles I play on Linux, but I keep that laptop around just for gaming because I don’t want to mess around. Anecdotally I would say 90% of my games work absolutely perfectly with Proton and it’s mostly mods that screw up the experience.

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          Yup 100% on point with that. I’d say for me its 95% of my games work absolutely fine through proton. But I have a 500gb windows partition for the 5% that don’t.

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        For me, its Battlefield. Most of them no longer work on Linux due to EA Anticheat

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          It’s so freaking annoying that these anti cheats don’t ever work with Linux… I wonder if steam did their own anti cheat that worked for Linux they could get those games to run on it, but it’s a pipedream, it’s too complex and it’s much better to keep the Linux portion of the market growing through making it more accessible to normal users and then getting the anti cheat companies interested in making a version for Linux instead

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            Thankfully one of the larger anti cheats (EasyAntiCheat) now has native support for the Linux kernel and enabling it is literally just a button for developers. But the problem still lies with kernel level anticheats… in an ideal world we just wouldn’t use anticheats that have to embed themselves in the system so deeply.

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          I don’t know why people put up with BS just to play some game.

          I guess the neurons that activate in their brains are the same that activate in the brains of smokers that are aware that smoking causes cancer, yet they do it anyway.

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        One of my frustrations is, if I want to try some dozen games on Itch.io, they all come down as EXEs and it’s not clear how I could quickly set them up for Proton. I understand the 20-clicks method of setting up one game off of Steam, and Lutris helps with well-known launchers like Ubi Connect. But for independent authors, needing to do setup for every EXE is a heavy dealbreaker.

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            I was just going to suggest this. Most small indy games from places like itch.io I play using Bottles and it works very well.

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            The “should” in that sentence is why I keep Windows 11 laptop around. Approximately 100% of the EXEs on there work vs with Photon where it starts up, but I get a bug and then I wonder if that’s a problem with the game, or if I have some setting right.

            Now when I want to game, I just game. No more fiddling. The Windows 11 laptop sits quietly in a bag until I want to play a game, I use it for that, and then put it back away until I want to have fun. My workflow has 0% dependency on Windows and that’s how I like it now.

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          When I review itch games I always advocate for native Linux support. If the devs see it, they will do it. The ones I talk to who haven’t don’t want to put in the effort to learn how to compile it for Linux if barely anyone would use the port.

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          I only played very few games via itch so far, however using Lutris for them seems to be most straight-forward. Once you connect your account anything you have in your collections should show up and be installable straight through the Lutris client. At least for “Manic Miners” it figured everything out on its own, worked like a charm.

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        VR is still 99% windows right now, and if people dont appreciate the value of an affordable in-home holodeck after all this time i dont know what to say anymore

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          Meh, I found VR a gimmic…

          It was pita to setup, gave me headaches (from wearing the kit), and “the best” game (Half Life Alyx) had complicated dynamics… so I already forgot what I was supposed to do (after Windows Updates, VR updates, approx. 2 reboots needed… Not to mention Windows updates fkd up my Linux multiboot few times…)

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      Biggest turn off for Linux is all the insufferable Linux bros on Lemmy that make me want to avoid anything Linux. I instinctively roll my eyes when I hear the name alone now

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        I think everyone goes through a zealot period where they have discovered it and want the whole world to get on board. Now the setup works great for me and I do not care who else in the world uses it. My limited exposure to Windows 11 is infuriating and I’m eternally grateful to open source devs that I have a relaxing and functional Linux environment.