• Thoven@lemdro.id
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      1 year ago

      This interpretation leaves out the most important part of the crucifixion story: Jesus willingly took on the world’s sins out of love. So whether or not most Christians would say yes depends on if the one person being tortured has a choice in the matter, which is unspecified in the question.

  • Griseowulfin@sh.itjust.works
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ones_Who_Walk_Away_from_Omelas

    Basically the plot of this story. It poses the issue of how much we value society over the individual, and if that is good or not. Would you want to live in a world that depended on the the torture of a single person. You then could extrapolate that out to societies in the real world, US and chattel slavery. the west and the use of sweat shop labor for cheap products, the Emirates and their use of migrants as indentured servants. Even tipped wages for servers in the USA, the gig economy, and things like medical residencies could be considered a minor version of Omelas. As humans, we often tolerate the abuse or exploitation of others for our own benefit, or even just out of ignorance and inaction.

  • monobot@lemmy.ml
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    I think it has happened numerous times already under the same pretense.

    I am not sure if we are saved or not.

  • jet@hackertalks.com
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    I’ll take a different approach here. Evolution does not care about your feelings.

    If a species is unwilling to self-sacrifice for the greater good, and it comes up against an event that cannot be solved with selfishness, it goes extinct. Like in this scenario.

    But evolution is a motherfucker, and evolution does not care about your feelings, the only thing that matters to evolution is reproductive success. So some people are going to be altruistic because that’s better for the species because it makes it more survivable.

    I’m not saying it’s right, I’m not saying it’s wrong, but the species that’s going to survive is the one that’s willing to self sacrifice for the greater good of the species. To increase reproductive success. And that’s what’s going to be left in the universe. Because evolution does not care. You either get with the program or you get out of the gene pool no other option

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      I agree. It would be practical and coldhearted, not moral.

      It’s also a fake question because there is no situation where torturing someone makes the world a better place.