Why do fascists use bad faith arguments to normalize their ideology?
Because they don’t have any good ones to use.
I don’t call people who disagree with me fascists. Disagreement is healthy and important. The world would be boring as fuck if we all agreed on everything.
I call people who lick the boots on their own necks fascists. I call people who celebrate fascist ideals fascists. I call people who vote for fascist policies and candidates fascists.
It’s easy to not be called a fascist by not being one.
If that’s the reason people generally use when they disagree with you then you just might be a fascist.
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck. Chances are it’s probably a duck.
That said they may be taking it as a sign of the other person’s larger ideology. For example if they have a strong anti immigration stance they might come to the conclusion that the person is racist.
There’s sometimes the mentality if you give this person an inch they’ll run with it so they may say it to stop things from derailing
There’s also a ton of dog whistles the alt right use. Remember when the milk emoji was used on Twitter? What about the okay sign? Hawaiian shirts?
Why do Americans use the word “liberal” to describe people who are anything but?
American liberals would be Tories in the UK.
More conservative politics.
It’s almost lol there can be regional difference in language usage. Funny that
Because they’re socially liberal, opposed to most forms of social conservatism. The term rose to prominence in its current US meaning in the 1920s and 30s.
It was first used (in this sense) to identify a more moderate economic approach as compared to movements that were perceived as more radical like progressivism, socialism, communism, etc.
Probably because their ‘disagreement’ is about whether or not certain groups of people should exist.
Link to one comment anywhere on the internet arguing that a certain people should not exist.
Or …
Stop using this mirage as justification for calling people fascists.
One day gone by, no link.
“Fascists” are people who have particular beliefs, and participate in politics in a particular way.
Those beliefs and practices disagree with a lot of beliefs and practices that are called “liberal”.
(Mind you, “liberal” is a word that’s used to mean a lot of different things. I’m okay with calling myself a “liberal”, because people understand “liberal” a lot better than “progressive libertarian centrist” or “non-communist anti-fascist” or a lot of other things I could call myself…)
But if you happen to “disagree with liberals” in the particular ways that fascists “disagree with liberals” … then you are in fact a fascist.
Some of the people that disagree with them are, sometimes they are not. It is not always used in the right way.
Because you’re a fascist. The fact that they disagree with you is secondary
I bet it’s because you know you should never listen to a fascist, so determining that someone is a fascist allows you to stop listening to them.
I remember the old question, “Does your mother know you beat your wife?” Is this the same guy asking?
I don’t think it’s useful to categorize liberals in this case, so I’m going to answer the question: Why do [some people] call those who disagree with them fascists
Some people use fascist or Hitler or the holocaust (or the atomic bomb or…) as a generic evil, as per Godwin’s law or reducto ad Hitlerum This isn’t specific to fascist or WWII tropes, as the term terrorist became quickly misused by right wing interests in the US against journalists and others who sought to serve as a check on the misuse of power by the US federal government, and currently, the term groomer (typically used to talk about people lure children to victimize them) is being applied to LGBT+ people in general by right wing pundits and even some government officials.
However, as Mike Godwin noted, there are actual fascist movements gaining popularity in the United States, Europe and elsewhere. The Republican Party, when it was taken over by Donald Trump during the 2015-2016 Republican Presidential Primary rapidly shifted in lockstep with the transnational white power movement, which has a lot of intersection with MAGA, with the Alt-Right, and with the white Christian Nationalist movement that has been guiding the Republican party since the 1970s, and has been putting Federalist Society jurists on the US Supreme Court (thanks to the influence and mission of Leonard Leo) with the direct intent of retracting civil rights, first from marginalized groups and eventually from the entire US public.
So at this point, a lot more people have an awareness of the threat of fascism, and see all efforts to preserve hierarchy in the US, to withhold human civil rights or to target marginalized demographics as serving to accelerate the fascist takeover of the United States, whether or not the person engaging in the behavior is directly aware that this is the end result. So even if, say, a given person is an OG fiscal-responsibility conservative, by voting for the Republican party (or even failing to vote for the Democratic party) he serves the fascist takeover, the neutering of elections in the US and the rise of authoritarianism. Most MAGAs, for example, are useful idiots, sometimes having socialist ideals, yet voting for Trump-aligned Republicans out of fear of the menaces they insist plague the US (often, imaginary bogeymen, not backed by facts or statistics).
Could ask the same thing about all the constitutional conservative “#maga #anti-fascist” accounts on Twitter. Go police your own party’s nonsense first.
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A common misconception, but not quite. Racist is a term reserved for anyone who thinks that people have more or less value depending on their skin tone. Fascist is a term for people who support a government that disregards the will of the people as a whole and blindly follows the direction of one supremely powerful person’s dream of the future.
There is often a lot of overlap in these two categories, but hopefully these definitions will help you figure out which one you are. (If not both)
