Android 15 really doesn't want you to turn off Bluetooth
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Android 15 will add a new feature that can automatically turn on Bluetooth the next day in case you temporarily disabled it.
    • LesserAbe@lemmy.worldEnglish
      382·
      8 months ago

      If you read the article they say there’s a toggle to enable/disable auto Bluetooth on.

  • Bosht@lemmy.worldEnglish
    563·
    8 months ago

    I’m so fucking sick of it. I just want to go back to old Android and Windows. Fuck both these bloated corps who keep inching away at shit they know goddamn well they’re doing. Seriously. Leave my shit alone. Let me root it and customize and fuck it up as I please. Leave me the fuck alone. /rant

    • snooggums@midwest.socialEnglish
      606·
      8 months ago

      That’s their excuse.

      Better be an opt-in feature instead of an opt-out, because I’m tired of needing to turn off new ‘features’ I don’t need that are said to be for something that sounds kind of reasonable but ends up being because they want to track more things and have more control over you.

      • lowleveldata@programming.devEnglish
        141·
        8 months ago

        Ya I don’t like the idea either. But what really grinds my gears is that misleading headline that makes it sounds like they are doing it suddenly with no apparent reasons.

        • snooggums@midwest.socialEnglish
          103·
          8 months ago

          I prefer neutral headlines that don’t promote what is likely to be a lie without the context of the article.

          They say it is for finding lost phones, but I don’t really believe that is the actual reason. They are probably doing some kind of tracking that uses bluetooth and too many people are turning it off for their preferences.

          • lowleveldata@programming.devEnglish
            92·
            8 months ago

            Let the reader be the judge. You can be neutral without hiding information. How about “Android 15 can turn Bluetooth on automatically and Google says it’s for finding lost devices”?

            • snooggums@midwest.socialEnglish
              21·
              8 months ago

              and Google says

              That would be acceptable, but headlines are rarely written that way because of the added length.

        • snooggums@midwest.socialEnglish
          82·
          8 months ago

          If the default setting is on, then it is opt-out.

          It wouldn’t be either without the toggle.

      • notfromhere@lemmy.mlEnglish
        16·
        8 months ago

        Covid was an excuse to implement contact tracing and literally nobody batted an eye.

    • ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
      31·
      8 months ago

      Don’t complain too much about it. They can already do that part, really. I’m just happy the find my device network is finally about to go live do I can have non apple air tag like things that will actually work really well.

    • VindictiveJudge@lemmy.worldEnglish
      10·
      8 months ago

      And probably for the same reason. Google is rolling out an update to their device tracking network and if it’s anything like Apple’s, it relies on as many phones as possible having blue tooth enabled.

    • Chewy@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
      112·
      8 months ago

      Doing the dishes while listening to podcasts with low battery makes me wish my wireless earphones didn’t break so soon. The amount of times I took my phone out, put it on a table and walked away to tow it off the table is staggering. Or forgetting to turn down the amplifier before unplugging just to get blasted with static noise isn’t something I miss.

      Not having to bother with reconnecting bluetooth headphones and instead plugging in a cable is great tho, so I understand everyone who still likes their wired headphones.

  • evo@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    193·
    8 months ago

    The UI strings make it pretty clear this is an option the user can choose.

    • ShadowCatEXE@lemmy.worldEnglish
      61·
      8 months ago

      It is informative, but how often does the average person read this kind of information? Especially when they are set on doing something simple, such as turning off Bluetooth. What if you never use the settings menu, and only turn it off from the notification drawer? They never see that information. Not to mention that it’s such a small option (even though it’s a big paragraph) that they make it seem like they don’t want the user to disable it completely.

      What they should do, is when the user disables Bluetooth the first time (anywhere on the phone), a pop up is at least shown to instruct the user that it is still scanning in the background. That way the user is informed. OR, hear me out, have background scanning disabled by default and prompt the user to enable it the first time they disable Bluetooth.

      • Dark ArcAEnglish
        51·
        8 months ago

        Honestly this is probably for the average user… Because Google doesn’t want to receive calls that XYZ (that uses Bluetooth) is broken from those that are tech illiterate in the general public and accidentally turned Bluetooth off.

        My grandpa as an example would also not read your pop-up.

        The general public is not concerned with disabling Bluetooth for more than a power saving or troubleshooting step… And even then, it’s going to be an accident more than a choice for a lot of people.

        • redcalcium@lemmy.instituteEnglish
          4·
          8 months ago

          I think the primary motivation for this change is to keep bluetooth active on significant portion of android users so google’s upcoming “find my” network can take off. They don’t want people to permanently turn off bluetooth from the drawer because there is a chance that they forgot about it and won’t turn it on again, which is bad for their upcoming network. Adding popups to inform the users will increase the chance of users deciding to permanently deactivating bluetooth.

          • Dark ArcAEnglish
            11·
            8 months ago

            That might be a partial motivation for sure … but Bluetooth is used for so much these days (there’s not even a headphone jack, Bluetooth speakers are everywhere, etc) I have a hard time believing any significant portion of the general public is turning off Bluetooth for an extended period intentionally to begin with.

            Let alone enough that it would be enough people to be a concern regarding their tracking network taking off.

        • ShepherdPie@midwest.socialEnglish
          2·
          8 months ago

          How would you even call Google? The people that these hypothetical tech illiterate people are likely calling are their younger family members or their cellular provider. I doubt they even know that Google runs Android.

  • Nate@programming.devEnglish
    151·
    8 months ago

    My April fools prank you on my friends was a fake news article. It would’ve worked if any of them actually read past the headline.

    In the same regards, it’s a toggle if you want it to come back automatically. You can still turn off Bluetooth and leave it off. The feature is there so you don’t turn off Bluetooth and lose your device & the only way to track it

    Edit: fixed typo

  • brax@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    5·
    8 months ago

    It will be a really sad day when they kill Termux and Tasker. At the same time, maybe it will be the push for people smarter than me to write a proper competitive OS that we can flash.

  • katy ✨@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    75·
    8 months ago

    yeah i think this is a pretty good option since a lot of people turn off bluetooth and then wonder why their hearing devices or smart gadgets don’t work. it’s obviously just an option not mandatory.

    • LesserAbe@lemmy.worldEnglish
      81·
      8 months ago

      If you read the article it says there will be a toggle to enable or disable the feature. It’s part of updates to support their “find my device” network

      • GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.mlEnglish
        3·
        8 months ago

        Sorry I’m one of the Lemmy users who sometimes don’t open the links and read sources. It’s really really good if the feature can be completely disabled. Though opt-it might be a little bit better

        EDIT: I just read the article and didn’t see the info about disabling the feature. It can be my poor English knowledge though. Could you say where exactly it says about it?

        • LesserAbe@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          8 months ago

          There’s more than one spot that covers it, but one part says “You should be able to ignore the auto-on toggle and disable Bluetooth as usual, though”

      • cm0002@lemmy.worldEnglish
        7·
        8 months ago

        Maybe someday, everytime someone says “just get a Linux phone” I look a few up and the specs are always piss poor…

        Better to just get a pixel and slap GrapheneOS (A privacy and security focused Android fork) on it

      • GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.mlEnglish
        2·
        8 months ago

        Unfortunately only a few phones support Linux well and they are either really old (OnePlus 6, Samsung A5 etc) or expensive (PinePhone and FairPhone). Privacy costs a lot nowadays