• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    The claim is that they were outside agitators, i.e. there specifically to commit crimes, not that they were just outsiders.

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      6 months ago

      That’s exactly what I’m saying. If the percentage is that high then a LOT of them were literally there just to create a problem.

      Think about it. The vast majority of the people protecting were students. Yet HALF of those arrested were outsiders. There is only one way that happens. An I saying every single one of the outsiders were trouble makers? No and neither was the commenter. The point is you don’t get percentages like this unless people showed up to create problems.

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        6 months ago

        Why a lot? Why can’t most of them just have been there to protest peacefully?

        I went to anti-gulf war protests at Indiana University when I was in middle school in 1991. I was in the protest camp cooking food and doing odd jobs. I was an outsider. Was I an outside agitator?

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          How do you get to half of those being arrested being outsiders. When the vast majority of those protesting were students? The only way that happens is if those people that got arrested were there to create problems. If one person gets arrested maybe it was the individual maybe it was the cop. If you get to these kinds of numbers then I’m going to start asking questions and start looking at those who are getting arrested. Am I saying ALL those outsiders were Just there to create problems? No. That was never implied. But it can’t be ignored that half of those arrested are outsiders. So that means we have to logically start asking were those people there to protest or create problems. With it being half (and obviously everyone who created a problem didn’t get arrested) that means there was a significant amount of people there from the outside who were troublemakers.

          No idea of how you came to a conclusion that I was saying that since you went to a protest that you were a troublemaker.

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            No. That is not the “only way that happens.”

            New York is a huge city. Anyone can go to Columbia to protest. Many people feel sympathy and solidarity.