The vegan community is growing on the lemmyverse now at 110 registered users that makes a MAU of 69 (0.15%) of the 44.9k Lemmy userbase.
If we apply the 90-9-1 rule with rounding factored in, we would have 55 lurkers, 5 small contributors and 1 contributor.
Lemmy.vg has 39 users, 7 communities, 533 posts, 376 comments and 18 6mo active users. Started on 24-05-09.
Vegantheoryclub.org has 71 users, 13 communities, 1200 posts, 2500 comments and 51 6mo active users. Started on 24-04-10.
!vegan@lemmy.vg has 106 posts, 110 comments, 83 subscribers and 671 6mo visitiors.
!vegan@vegantheoryclub.org has 388 posts, 1300 comments, 310 subscribers and 2500 6mo visitors.
Here are the signup pages if you’re interested: Lemmy.vg and Vegantheoryclub.org both are anarchist.
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There are definitely more vegans on lemmy but given they are frequently targeted with harassment and trolling I doubt all of them are willing to expose themselves to such behavior.
I’m happy lemmy is flexible enough to offer spaces for all of us, assholes be damned. Thanks for offering places for people to feel comfortable!
Thanks for not fucking up the planet any faster than you have to, and for being a better person than I am.
I’ve almost given up meat. I don’t see myself ever giving up cheese. But I appreciate you guys and what you’re (not) doing.
Thanks for not fucking up the planet any faster than you have to, and for being a better person than I am.
Agree with this however I’m not vegan and don’t want to take underserved credit for the effort it takes to make it a permanent change.
I’m heading down the path but still have a ways to go to the destination.
If everyone made an effort we’d live in a completely different world almost over night. At least as someone who cares about sustainability side of it, that’s what matters. But I appreciate that veganism consists of a bunch of different forms of arguments and motivations.
My path to veganism has more to do with refusing to be poisoned by the corporate clowns that don’t care they’re killing us all with listeria and microplastics in EVERYTHING and a supply chain that I refuse to depend on.
It shouldn’t be unreasonable to buy and consume healthy vegetables from a normal store but it gets harder every day. My means of survival will not be affected by recalls and cross contamination, corporate greed, or animal slavery.
IMO- Our survival will depend on our ability to take back control from companies that would sell us our doom with a shiny ribbon wrapped around it. Self-sustainable veganism is my bet for our future and I’m doing everything I can to bring it to reality as quickly as I can.
This statement (about everyone single personal effort) only becomes meaningful when you take into consideration why people don’t. If you do, you will encounter the dialectics of structure and “personal choice” and how complicated history is and how it is not at all about “everybody make a small change in their life”.
The liberal feverdream of individual solutions for structural problems is bound to end up in “I buy good groceries”.
And, eventhough veganism is a good thing to do, this is why I’m personally so annoyed by vegan communities.
I dont know if reducing your personal sin count or whatever is a substitute for radical critique and political action, or an add-on, so I didn’t downvote. But maybe it explains some of it.
How are the corporations and governments going to change if one person doesn’t commit the first action of doing better and inspiring others to do the same. As people buy animal products in grocery stores and people vote in carnist political parties.
The liberal feverdream of individual solutions for structural problems is bound to end up in “I buy good groceries”.
And, eventhough veganism is a good thing to do, this is why l’m personally so annoyed by vegan communities.
That’s a strawman because if you were paying attention you would notice that vegans are doing street outreach, disruptive protests and factory farm liberation to save the animal victims from immense suffering. They’re not simply buying “good groceries”
Universal suffrage, abolition and gay marriage didn’t just suddenly came out of thin air because corporations and governments decided to become nicer no it was it was the unsurmountable pressure by the people protesting for better treatment for all.
“Strawman” - and then you just go with “vegans”… so all? Most? Some? Or maybe just the tiniest percentage? I think you understand for wich ones my argument applies and how “strawman” doesn’t, cause numbers. You know, if you pay attention…
Ok lets cut the rhetorics, I was trying to be sincere. I think you might wanna pay some more of that attention (omg sry I stop now) to “dialectic”. This does explicitly not mean you can turn the thing around and solely look at the other side.
So of course no change ever happens if all those one persons don’t do anything. But they will only change history if they change the underlying structures. To do so, they have to overcome their individualistic constriction and reach collective agency.
You gotta organize. The market won’t do, since it is THE form of organization that makes everyone a single player. Both, in their acting and in their consciousness.
Same, and honestly, that’s enough for now. It already cuts out a giant portion of the footprint and I got so many other things to worry about, I can work on finding replacement cheese that isn’t a joke later.
You’re doing more than the vast majority of people, so this isn’t supposed to be an attack but isn’t it kinda selfish to still eat cheese when you, from what it seems like, understand why it’s wrong? Anyway, actual cheese can already be made vegan but, at least in the EU, the company just isn’t allowed to sell it because they’re still waiting for approval but other companies like Rewe are also starting to invest in it, so hopefully it won’t take long until it can be sold. I think they’re starting to sell it outside the EU tho.
The main reason for not eating cheese is that it’s gross! Just think for a second what it is. Think harder. Gross. Admittedly pizza is kind of tasty - IF you can stop yourself imagining what it’s made of.
Unlike meat, even the best fake cheese is not very realistic IME. But if someone else enjoys it, all the better.
If you consider this to be the main reason not to eat cheese, you would particularly benefit from keeping it to yourself.
This is a discussion about people approaching veganism. Someone describing their opinion of an animal based food is appropriate discussion for this thread.
Of course I don’t, although in my case it is. The deeper point is that if people were to reflect more closely on the origin of their food, this would certainly be a win for veganism. After all, plants are seen as many things but “gross” is not usually one of them.
Disappointed you had to jump straight into censorious mode and tell others literally to shut up.
I’m not telling you to shut up. But I am telling you that you’re probably not convincing as many people as you’d wish by telling them that their culture and way of life is “gross”.
Also, some of the best plant based food is totally gross. Fermentation is life.
telling them that their culture and way of life is “gross”.
Hard to deny that in most cases. But not all, because people’s minds work differently. Personally I rind risible the idea that somebody is attacking my “culture and way of life” when they question my diet. Am I really so rare in my individualism and openness to new ideas?
Because here’s the thing: I personally have stopped eating certain foods simply after thinking about what they are. Cheese is literally the congealed secretions of the mammalian reproductive apparatus. Pretty yucky when you think about it like that, right? No rational arguments or statistics required. That’s a pretty cheap conversion to veganism. Yes, I know that most people will not be open to this kind of novelty thinking. But presumably some will, especially if it can be done with humor.
Also, some of the best plant based food is totally gross. Fermentation is life.
True. I’ve always found mushrooms a bit icky too, but I soldier on and eat them anyway because they’re so healthy.
For real. There’s a significant number of downvotes on this article even. What the hell?
Clowns doing clown things. I’d recommend an instance with downvotes disabled but it’s all personal preference.
Could be unrelated, but there was some fiasco a bit ago where some vegans on Lemmy were calling for withholding necessary nutrition to pets, and they got a ton of shit for it. There’s been a kind of “fuck that place” vibe ever since.
Hopefully people can eat a little less meat and it loses its subsidies. That would be great.
That was just Rooki on lemmy.world. He’s already got a bad rep as it is. Nobody else cared that much, especially on other instances.
some vegans on Lemmy were calling for withholding necessary nutrition to pets
That is misrepresenting the situation as synthetic taurine, B12 and vitamin A can be provided in a plant-based diet through the form of reputable kibble brands.
Sources:
-https://sustainablepetfood.info/
-https://www.magonlinelibrary.com/doi/abs/10.12968/vetn.2022.13.6.252
-https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0253292
-https://www.mdpi.com/2306-7381/10/1/52
-https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0284132
-https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S240584402411609X
There are definitely more vegans on lemmy but given they are frequently targeted with harassment and trolling I doubt all of them are willing to expose themselves to such behavior.
For real. There’s a significant number of downvotes on this article even. What the hell?
As if. People disagreeing with you is not harassement. I guess almost no one want you to stop not eating meat.
I’m happy lemmy is flexible enough to offer spaces for all of us, assholes be damned. Thanks for offering places for people to feel comfortable!
Amen to that
Contrary point of view here. I’m not vegan, not even vegetarian, but reduced my animal produce consumption a lot (not that I consumed much anyway) and am always looking for further alternatives that are possible within my personal circumstances. However, what I’ve seen on Lemmy (and other social media, such as Reddit) regarding vegans, was highly militant and toxic people who spew nonsense and hostility towards anyone who is not vegan. Generally what you’d describe as veganazi or whatever. Seeing things like that definitely does not cause me wanting to join or even lurk such communities and is really just confirming the stereotypes being shared by certain trolls.
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People can have more than one account, so there might be overlap between these two instances.
Also, having an account on one of these two doesn’t make you a vegan, just like having an account on any other instance doesn’t mean you’re not a vegan.
We exist!
cool. I guess I’m effectively vegan now so maybe I’ll find some good recipes on here
If there where any more they’d have told us already.
is there any information on the User-Base by nationality?
some of us were wondering on another thread since there are so many communities in different languages, but I can’t find any way to tell the ballpark nationality percentages of the users here.
I don’t think there is as these instances haven’t done surveys on nationality as of yet.
I have seen English, French, Swedish, Portuguese, German and Vietnamese vegan communities though.
I’m curious, since the federation seems a lot more geographically decentralized then reddit did.
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