I remember there was a time on the internet where “Don’t feed the trolls” and “True story, read it on the internet” was a thing. Would be nice if they were a thing again. Even in this thread, obvious trolls are being engaged and motivated to spew their filth.
The tragic irony of boomers is they told all their kids “don’t believe everything you read on the internet” and then failed to internalize the lesson for themselves.
This applies to any age group though so I don’t understand why you are pointing the finger in a particular direction. It’s not really helpful or insightful in the context of the thread.
Because they were the generation teaching the first group of kids growing up with the internet and they were actually very right to tell us that. Their role is unique. The generation matters. There’s your insight.
Well by that logic of age then gen X too. There’s a bit more insight for you.
No. Gen X weren’t parents until the internet was more or less in every household already and they aren’t as prone to misinformation as boomers (though certainly not immune).
Gen x absolutely were parents at the beginning of the internet. The earlier gen X were in their 20’s when the world wide web was demonstrated so were the parents of the first children who were born into it.
The oldest gen X were 30 by 1995. The vast majority were not even old enough to be parents. By 2000 the oldest were 35 the youngest 20.
This is how smaller communities die. They get infested with state actors and the paradigm shifts on some of the stupidest, dipshit topics.
Big ones too. Case in point, USA.
You are literally reading EU state propaganda in this very post, an article by “kyivinsider” sourcing its information from “alliance4europe”, funded by the European Parliament and the Polish International Affairs ministry among others (according to its own website, feel free to check the link inside the article).
That doesn’t mean that it’s fake news or anything, the report is most likely true, just that it’s really ironic that we’re consuming state propaganda designed to make us worried about state propaganda from other “evil” countries (unlike our glorious EU parliament, not on a fascist downward spiral at all)
The problem of platforms when they become big. Just like cyber criminals lurk on systems used by the mass to exploit. Things can be used for good and for bad. And its often the small portion of bad that ruins it for large majority. Just like the few football hooligans that screw things up for the rest.
Bad intend or behavior is just hard to manage in a free online world. If Elon is hated then Adrian will take over…
Gross
It’s an information war like Hilary Clinton said.
The link goes to a site created less than two months ago kyivinsider. The source is from Alliance4europe.This is part of the DISARM Foundation, also know for AMITT (Adversarial Misinformation and Influence Tactics and Techniques) framework.
That one belongs to the Credibility Coalition, and that one to Meedan. A San Francisco based organization funded by the US National Science Foundation and many organizations like Meta, Amazon, etc.
The Russians are amateurs at propaganda in comparison to the US.
Propagandan is one of Kremlin’s biggest tools, and it has been since the wall went up and it certainly never stopped when it came down.
Over time it has become the cheapest way for them for sow discord and infighting between their adversaries. Moving it online made it even cheaper and they’ve been at it hard the past decade or two.
Obviously the US have their own operations, but your point is not correct in any way. Look at what they’ve accomplished. The world is in chaos and they’re largely responsible for a lot or even most of it, depending on how you look at the big picture.
I didn’t express that last part correctly. I meant that it was probably a single guy making those bots. A lot more effective that multiple funders, agencies, organizations and private companies working on “democracy” and “transparency”.
As for the fault. The trouble started with a coup in 2014. Then internal conflict and then Russia entered differently with war. At every step of the conflict you have the US behind. The coup to put a US puppet, arming them, blowing up Russian infrastructure, and using other countries to block Russian gas in favor of more expensive American gas. Russia has made clear they don’t tolerate NATO in Ukraine. It is as logical as Russia putting military bases in Canada or Mexico.
You’re wasting your time. I happen to live in a country with a very long border to Russia (guess which one) and I know you’re full of shit simply because we’re dealing with the motherfuckers daily. NATO is and always has been a defensive alliance. We all know that. Russia is simply using it as a really idiotic excuse to do what they wanted to do in the first place. We all know that too.
Simply put, the time for this kind of bullshit is over and done for. Nobody that isn’t already dumb enough to side with those fucknuts believes any of this shit.
As for the US, yeah well up until Putin and his cronies got all the clowns to come out they weren’t actively harming anyone deliberately. Sure, there are war crimes and assholes all over, but also a lot of good-natured and sincerely well meaning people. There have also been trials and sentences for said assholes, as opposed to Russia where you can beat your wife to death and it’s all good.
You don’t find a lot of good in Russia, and you haven’t for a long time. My grandfather fought them, and either me or my son will probably fight them eventually. We’ve already taken action once. It won’t stop there.
You are all dying for an American cause and corrupt local politics if you are Ukrainian. And I am not supporting Russia. There is no good guy here. In the past some countries in Latin America got destroyed be the US for being too friendly with Russia. That is what happens between two powers who want control. The Ukraine war is about arm deals, corruption and money laundering. And I have heard that from an Ukrainian.
I love how this post makes a bunch of claims, and yet provides zero sources, and thus, has absolutely zero value.
It’s digital noise, spam at best, evil misinformation at worst.
It took time to look that up. The link doesn’t even have an about page. And an IP search shows it is a new site. From there the actual source site (German) you follow back the about pages back to the original sources. There is no need to for a bunch of links. Anyone can verify.
I thought I was smelling some more of that over there lately.
Can they not just block these? I get that this is a never ending battle against troll farms and the like, but is BSky already falling to the “more engagement is better and we don’t care if it’s nefarious engagement” trap already?
There are many useful blocklists. But the average user isn’t informed enough to seek them.
I mean for the service to block them or eliminate the troll accounts. Not for the user to do so.
It’s always been there, it’s easier to moderate them out than it is on the alternatives. Would rather still be on bsky/mastodon than whatever the fuck.
The fucking Russian shills cried on Reddit resulting in permanent bans. They will be here soon enough.
That’s how you know you’ve made it in social media
Man, there’s like no day I don’t see another high quality version of this meme on Lemmy.
How many different upscaled versions do you people have exactly?
This is fuckin’ special, background cut out 16k ultra HD
I have another that I ran through a 16x upscaling model but nothing has called for a 12k x 10k pikachu yet
What about vector pikachu?
yet…
I wonder if they’ll ever notice this place. Like. Before a big election or something.
You are commenting in a post linking to “kyivinsider”, whose article sources its information from “alliance4europe”, this is literally state propaganda. I don’t mean to say it’s disinformation because the content of the article is probably true, but this is evidence that state propaganda is already rampant in Lemmy and we should be aware of it.
I swear they’re already here. We got a couple stubborn conservative plants doing nothing but posting disinfo day in and day out. The mods of !conservative@lemmy.world are particularly sus.
That’s basically what the ml and hexbear instances seem to be. Or at least there’s a lot of them there.
LMAO, what a sub… I don’t what I expected going in, but it certainly wasnt a crypto scam as the first post. More like conservative @ my ass
Idiots don’t fact-check, and now we all pay the price. We can leave Twitter, Bluesky, Reddit, whatever—but nothing can stops them anymore.
Keep in mind that state propaganda doesn’t equate misinformation. This very article is western state propaganda (“kyivinsider” using “alliance4europe” as a source for the article), and the report is most likely true. You don’t need to strictly lie or misinform to create state propaganda, you just need to propagate your talking points and direct the public discourse to given topics. We’re very concerned about Russian propaganda (and rightfully so) but, fuck, we’ve been literally supporting a genocide and all the state propaganda from our own western countries was directing ourselves in other direction, maybe we should worry about that too. We’re literally consuming state propaganda right now in this article.
The nuclear block makes it a fools errand
I very much love the Bluesky block. Admittedly I am not there much, but still.
it is normal because the platform is growing and then BSKY public blocklist will be bigger to counter this.
Oh, good. I was worried we might actually get to keep a platform free of garbage. Whew. Can’t wait for all those conspiracy nuts to join in too!
/s
Seriously, if someone would just off Putin, that’d be great. Let Russia fall into a little civil war as smaller leaders fight amongst themselves for the scraps.
Just curious. Would you support a civil war in now openly fascist USA (see support of genocide and nazi salutes in presidential inauguration)? I don’t support civil war in either because that’s a horrifying outcome for the population of both.
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i was hoping for a purified echo chamber because that’s clearly what this world needs more of.
That is the western propaganda for justifying diminishing Russia. “If we are lucky a civil war fractures Russia into balkanized sections which the US/CIA will be able to keep divided and warmongering amongst each other. Blow up their oil. Yay!”. Instead, Russians understand this war as defensive, and don’t believe “NATO is a purely defensive alliance” BS, any more than non-imbeciles in west believe it, instead of willingly going along with the hateful propaganda lies because they have internalized their rulers warmongering profits as if it were a sports home team.
We can all be very thankful for Putin’s restraint on nuclear strikes of US bases in Europe, or Aircarrier fleets off coast of Israel. If anything, opposition in Russia that would replace him, if impression was that Russia was losing/Putin approach was failing, would be more aggressive in ending the war once and for all.
Cries about western propaganda while deep throating Kremlin propaganda. Good job.
Russians understand Ukraine to be a necessary defensive action. Reality. And only relevance to their actions. Western propaganda meant to disinform Russians that NATO motives are purely human truth and love is desperation that cannot end well.
And you’re still pushing Kremlin propaganda. Cool.
Too many nukes
If they had any that worked, they’d have used them by now.
Putin may be crazy, but he’s not suicidal.
Nukes aren’t self stable. The brains that it takes to maintain the stock left or died long ago.
Uhhh… I’d say he already crossed that threshold recently when he flung that empty ballistic missle into some random ass factory
