• marzhall@lemmy.world
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    16 hours ago

    Sure, but how do you get them to vote about it?

    Turnout at the polls is definitely impacted by:

    • knowing something is even being voted on
    • being reminded and having expanded how important something is
    • just perceiving other people are going to go vote too

    and so it’s important to discuss something that’s going to be voted on, even if the audience has already made up their mind.

    • andrewta@lemmy.worldOP
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      16 hours ago

      You are right I did miss word that thank you. Letting people know that there is a vote. That’s important. Trying to convince them to voteone or the other to me is just pointless. They’ve already made up their mind. If it takes a life lesson for them to learn well that’s a harsh life lesson. If they learn from it , great. if they didn’t well, maybe it wasn’t hard enough lesson.

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    16 hours ago

    For online discussions, it can be worth it. You might not change the mind of the person you’re talking to, but there are more lurkers than posters. Your discussion is for them.

    I think if you aren’t the one debating, you are more open to differing opinions.

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      16 hours ago

      Yeah, second hand opinions can be a thing and it’s the main reason I still argue online … but gosh can it be exhausting arguing with a wall.

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      13 hours ago

      Honest question here, what did you change your mind about?

      A double down vote for an honest question? Interesting

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    Maybe. You might be over estimating a person‘s maturity. I’ve definitely met people in the 20s who are clearly still kids in their mindset.

    For some people, life is a hard teacher, and they just don’t understand until situations personally affect them.

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      15 hours ago

      I had a roommate in college that had a fucking Ronald Reagan action figure/doll thing…

      He was in his 30s when Bernie first ran, and it got him to do a full 180 and get onboard with progressive policy across the board.

      I’m from a red state and it really isn’t uncommon for people to have made that switch in 2016.

      They can be talked into supporting all types of progressive policy at all stages of life, but that’s not as easy as getting them to vote for a conservative Dem like Biden or Kamala. And it makes voter outreach on a personal level almost impossible. I hated Clinton, Biden, and Kamala. I still held my nose and voted for them, but they just have too many flaws that I can’t defend when talking about politics.

      And “they’re not a Republican” isn’t a bonus to someone already ok with voting Republican.

      We know what happens when a progressive runs because of 08 Obama, they flip red states all over and carry majorities in the House and Senate

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    13 hours ago

    I’m not pro choice, I’m pro-abortion. As in, abortions should be the default. You should have to prove that you’re able to provide a healthy and stable environment to be allowed to have a kid.

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      13 hours ago

      And I’m willing to bet that no matter how long I spend or how hard I try , I’ll never change your mind

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        7 hours ago

        I mean, you might be able to. I was mostly joking. I can see how abortion kind of is murder but also it kind of is just a clump of cells at first, that the parents should be able to decide if they want to allow to develop.