My only real experience with this guy was that he helped fund a mario 64 romhacking competition that I entered. So I got some money from him because of it. Funny how that works out.
It actually is the most hilarious of ironies that despite what very real harm Thor might have inflicted upon the early stages of the movement through misinformation/mischaracterization; The fact is, I don’t think this movement would have come near to exploding the way that it has recently if not for the perfect Rube Goldberg machine of drama surrounding this man in the past 6 months.
Seriously. He could not have Barbara Streisand effected the “Stop Killing Games” movement harder if he tried. It really is such poetic justice. It’s a shame that I don’t live in the EU or I would gladly sign the initiate myself. Here’s to hoping that another EU regulation can have sweeping effects for the US. As a reluctant and very jaded US citizen myself, I harbor no illusions about any real and meaningful consumer protection regulations to ever make it over here. Mega-corpos have simply spent far too much money buying out every level of government, legislature, and regulatory bodies that exist.
Europe really is like a strange beacon of hope for US consumers, as odd as that sounds. Fight the good fight for us as well, brothers.
I’m calling it now: Thor is going to eventually say that this was his plan all along.
I can believe this, if he wasn’t such a narcissist or such a lying douche bag who always has to be right and has something to say about absolutely everything while having a story to go with it…
Then he would be a pretty cool guy…
Some of his advice isn’t actually bad though… I watched him for a bit but the more you watch him the more you see him for who he is…
A 5-D Chess move truly beyond comprehension by the mortal mind.
To think I actually liked this guy, what an egotistical asshole he really is.
Egotism often translates to charisma and confidence, but falls apart eventually.
Also, a reminder, the “Con” in con-artist is short for confidence.
Can someone explain just what exactly he did?
I tend to avoid social media drama like the plague.
Misinterpreted the article, made a video about it. Ignored his own comments calling him out on it.
Was overall an asshole “I know more than all of you” through, tone and everything.
Then doubled down.
But in short, PirateSoftware had a fall from grace for narcissism and with his previous opposition to the petition, became a “villain” to unite against.
I don’t know what happened in details but I really don’t hate him, as a member of the video game industry he has the right to make his voice heard.
I’m still glad consumers won here :)
No one’s silencing him, though right? They’re just reacting to what he said, which is consequence. Is this somehow challenging his right to make his voice heard?
I’m not saying you should hate him. And he absolutely have the right to his own opinion. But what he did is the equivalent of reading a news title, and then go trash talk it in the comments about how awful it is, when the article wasn’t about what you were mad about, at all.
Basically this;
Title: Denmark shuts down 60% of their wind-power
Article: Denmark shuts down 60% of their wind-power, pending an investigation as 1 million birds have died in them over the past 3 months, they are currently assessing the situation and investigating why this change in bird migration route has occurred and how to prevent more deaths. According to local expert, they will use the time to perform maintenance and test various methods of scaring birds away.
PirateSoftware: Denmark are the fucking worst, they shut down tons of wind farms, they are anti renewable, they don’t want wind farms, they realized that they can get cheaper gas, if they import more, and the difference will offset the cost of running and maintaining these wind farms. Where are they getting this gas? Probably Norway, possibly even Russia dude! They can eat my ass, the entire thing. Dried shit in my ass hairs and all.
If you’re interested in the details: https://youtu.be/HIfRLujXtUo?t=1117
I feel like a tourist on a safari trip with this whole saga. A colleague of mine told me about this situation and now I can’t look away.
When all is said and done, I definitely think it would be a good idea to have game libraries both physical and digital where people can play old games as they stop being profitable to developers.
I have vague memory of there already being such consumer made game libraries for old Gameboy titles back in the 2000s but those sites were taken down. It would be great to have some sort of system in place because this licensing bullshit is exactly why I ended up completely leaving streaming as a whole (for movies and shows) and went back to physical media in january/February of this year. I borrow dvds at the library now. It is fucking fantastic. I had forgotten how much I missed going looking for movies I’d like to see in places like Moby Disc and Blockbuster. It’s so comfy and when you find a movie you’ve never heard of before and you bring it home and it’s really good, it just feels so special.
I think games should have that too. I stopped playing games in 2015 because I just saw no end to having to fork out money all the time to keep up with the tech and getting new titles and gradually seeing how it was more and more an online thing instead of a physical thing so I just stopped. Didn’t like the direction games were taking. Seems like it is reaching a breaking point finally.
Libraries are so important for culture.
Just remember that we still need more signatures on the EU one, to rule out bot and incorrect signatures.
EU one requires an ID/passport, UK one doesn’t – I’d argue that the EU one is safe and the UK one should get more attention on the validitiy
The type of verification depends on the country and some don’t have any verification at signing. I’m Swedish and when I signed I just filled out a form, no checks of any kind.
Time for the EU to adopt FrejaID
EU is actively working on the EU Wallet and certain sources tell me it is getting there.
Ross explained it in his last video - there are reasons to be skeptical and unsure if it’s truly there until at least 1.4 mil signatures. And more votes is never bad. So both need more attention. If it reaches people in the EU it will also reach those in the UK.
gotta summary? I don’t wanna watch a vid
There’s always just people that mess up on the form. But they also monitor the sign rate and saw some periods of higher than normal signing in the middle of the night in the EU - indicating someone might have ran a bot to sign with invalid information. The EU only validates the signatures once the petition is closed, so they need a safe margin where even with a significant amount of invalid signatures, they still make it. Afaik 1.2 mil is about what they would expect for a normal vote of this size to be safe, and 1.4 mil is basically more than enough to compensate for any bad actors.
The EU only validates the signatures once the petition is closed
Ah, makes sense - thanks for this
Now that Thor has helped us achieve our goal. Let us never speak of him again.
I actually do not know who that is. Some YouTuber?
Just know he’s someone who wants you to eat his entire ass.
Trashy twitch streamer with a massive ego problem
I’ve never liked the guy, he’s always seemed so full of himself like he thinks he’s smarter than everyone and can never be wrong.
I am happy that it’s a Peripeteia developer saying this. The game is a mess (because it’s Early access) & needs a looooot if optimization, but boy it’s something else.
Gives me Ghost in the Shell vibes
I watch this dude sometimes, he says he’s a fulltime game dev but all I see him do is play other games. The game he works on has seen very little progress.
Would be nice if he at least admits he’s a streamer and not a game dev.
Yeah but did you know he worked at Blizzard?
I’ve also noticed this from watching his stream and the more I learn about the guy the less I like him. He seems to misrepresent and oversell himself quite a bit.
Btw did he tell you about the time he worked at Blizzard, for the millionth time?
He worked at Blizzard in the same way that Apple store employees work for Apple. They do, but not in the capacity that’s been implied.
Are Apple devs even contractually allowed to say that they’re Apple devs? I swear every employee from every other company won’t shut up about it on twitter but you never hear a thing from Apple people. Have I just been missing them completely?
I know a few people who used to work for Apple. The reason a lot don’t say it though is because if you do people automatically assume you had something to do with whatever feature they don’t personally like, and you get berated about it.
Ah, that’s completely understandable. Most people don’t realize that in a lot of companies, even if you are involved, the decision to make the stupid feature/break your workflow comes from a suit 10 pay grades above your level and despite everyone involved trying to explain that it’s a bad idea.
Also it’s a big fucking company haha
I remember seeing gameplay of Heartbound in like 2017? maybe earlier. it’s still not finished?
No it’s not. It’s sad.
I mean isn’t it a Deltarune ripoff ??
EDIT: Undertale it is then
Deltarune didn’t exist yet. It’s an undertale ripoff.
Which is very telling, tobyfox released a whole game on his own. While this " I worked at blizzard, BTW" tool hasn’t with an (allegedly) entire company around him. He’s a grifter, he scams people around him to profit off of other’s work. That’s all he does.
Given that it didn’t exist yet, more like an Undertale rip off
“game dev” is a way to put it
Sounds an awful lot like what YandereDev did when he was still relevant.
No joke, YandereDev has been making more progress than Thor on Hartbound and he at least does not pretend to be experienced Blizzard game developer.
yanderedev is always relevant
One of the best cautionary tales for developers
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Imagine using a voice changer to sound deeper and cheating in Outer Wilds of all games
I didn’t know about the voice changer and the cheating, am curious now
The real voice:
And basically he finished Outer Wilds in his first time loop because he is so much smarter than everyone else
For those who don’t know, this streamer is only tangentially related to the stop killing games petition because he made a comment about it being BS because he misinterpreted what it was supposed to do. He used his misinterpretation to spread false information about this petition leading to it not getting the support it initially should have.
When the guy behind the petition made a statement saying he didn’t think the petition was going to get enough signatures in part because of the misinformation being spread about it, PirateSoftware doubled down on his false claims and all of this lead to people doing the research they should have done in the first place and deciding to support the petition after all.
What we should probably be learning from this is that we should do our own research, and find out things instead of taking the word of random people online.
Edit: electric has brought to my attention that it wasn’t just one clip, but in fact a whole video dedicated to spreading misinformation that was made by Thor from PirateSoftware. Just wanted to be clear about that.
I think a lot of people didn’t hear about this guy until about 2 days ago. Personally I didn’t even know about this petition.
I knew about the lawsuit against The Crew, but I didn’t know anything about any more general petition, so I think the greater problem was simply a lack of advertising.
A comment? Am I misreading your comment or is this just ignorance of the situation? Because PirateSoftware made a whole ass video on the subject way back (the one allegedly rife with misinformation). I remember it on my feed when the campaign was getting traction, but didn’t watch it because my view of him was souring.
From what clips I’ve seen*, PirateSoftware misinterprets the majority of what he addressed. Either maliciously or unknowingly, which is why he was blamed for tanking momentum since that video did get a ton of views (before people wised up to him being a total cunt).
*Yes I know the irony of what I just said there after reading your last paragraph. I believe these terminally online streamers because I would not put it past PirateSoftware to be this awful after watching his videos for a small period and then the subsequent controversies coming out.
He may well have done but the only clip I have seen is the one where someone asks about it while he’s streaming games and he responded to that person with misinformation.
“Not only I’m not gonna support it, I gonna actively tell people to not support it. Because this is stupid. This is shit. Eat my ass.”
— Thor “PirateSoftware” Hall, on the Stop Killing Games proposal.
Yes. That clip.
Ah. Makes sense. I caught a stream once and he pretty much just did discussions with the chat. A lot of his videos were just cuts from his streams when someone asked.
I blocked this guy from my YouTube suggestions last year after getting heaps of his videos recommended to me, and in every one he comes across as an insufferable know-it-all.
And if you know anything about what he’s talking about, you quickly realize that in fact he does not know it all.
Can I be a big time Twitch celebrity too if I doodle a series of completely nondescriptive boxes and link them with little lines in MS Paint as I talk?
Can I be a big time Twitch celebrity too if I doodle a series of completely nondescriptive boxes and link them with little lines in MS Paint as I talk?
Definitely. Especially if you have large breasts.
Do I have to be a woman also or are the breasts enough?
It’s 2025. You can be a big tiddy vtuber no matter what you are in real life.
The latter works better, then you can go full Lily Tino when called out and ‘attacked’ for the obvious BS.
“If you’re a big fat man, I’m a titty fan, and I’d love to see yours, too!”
Wings of Redemption makes it work… ok. He doesn’t make it work at all.
he also cheats in single player puzzle games
of course there is no way to definitely prove that, which was probably an intentional tactic, but certain puzzles he “solved” in “hours” took a whole community weeks to figure out (brute force was the only way) and there’s no way he’s just happened to guess the right answer
Agree, the few videos of his that I appreciated were so rare and in every one he reminds me of that guy who is a pain to actually work with and any way other than their way is completely incorrect to them.
There are people with imposter syndrome, who you wish would say more and then there are people with overinflated self confidence, who just won’t shut up.
If you think he is an insufferable know it, you have not met enough insufferable know it alls. He is look warm obnoxious at best.
*lukewarm.
Sorry, I’m not in this fight, but my inner grammar-nazi just couldn’t help herself.
Apology exempted. Just please considered that the person you are correcting may not know English as their first language or by be struggling with dyslexia or some other issue you may know nothing about
That’s totally fair. I’m not a native English speaker myself, but some of the English I have learned has been through corrections from friendly souls around the internet so I wanted to pay it forward. I’m not judging or attacking you as I don’t expect anyone to be perfect in any language. Not even their own. Just wanted to help out 🤗
I don’t know man, I thought he was insufferable then, and after watching this rundown I stand by original opinion of him being an insufferable little gremlin.
Peace of life advice, don’t let other people tell you how to think, form your own opinions based on the things you value and experience.
Thor exist, and so do a lot of people that are a lot worse. He gets at more hate than he deserve when people like Jordan Peterson exist.
Also, you don’t have to watch his videos. You can just ignore him and move on with your life. There are better things to do with your time than to hate someone.
There’s a beautiful sentence at the end of every Rare Earth video: Don’t let other people think for you, they can barely think for themselves.
There is some really truth to that.
Oh wow you know so much about this topic and everything else!
All I am saying is that i have met truly insufferable know it alls and he is not one.
Oh the irony lmao
I am not sure you know meaning of irony
