Dr. John Wust does not come off as a labor agitator. A longtime obstetrician-gynecologist from Louisiana with a penchant for bow ties, Dr. Wust spent the first 15 years of his career as a partner in a small business — that is, running his own practice with colleagues.

Long after he took a position at Allina Health, a large nonprofit health care system based in Minnesota, in 2009, he did not see himself as the kind of employee who might benefit from collective bargaining.

But that changed in the months leading up to March, when his group of more than 100 doctors at an Allina hospital near Minneapolis voted to unionize. Dr. Wust, who has spoken with colleagues about the potential benefits of a union, said doctors were at a loss on how to ease their unsustainable workload because they had less input at the hospital than ever before.

“The way the system is going, I didn’t see any other solution legally available to us,” Dr. Wust said.

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    Absolutely. Unionize. Doctors should unionize. Accountants should unionize. Graphic designers should unionize. Everyone should unionize except the executives that have to bargain with the unions.

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        “It’s easier to fool a man than to convince him he’d been fooled.”

        Crazy how accurate Mark Twain was about the United States even way back then.

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        At my job years ago they had a required training that was watching a video that was essentially anti union propaganda.

        They had two managers discussing the need for a new supervisor position opening up, and discussing two qualified candidates. Then a third guy (poorly dressed and obnoxious personality) comes in and says they have to promote this other guy, due to union rules. The managers exclaim that guy barely ever comes to work and when he does has very poor performance, but Obnoxious Union Guy insists their hands are tied and they must promote him.

        End Scene.

        Now, good employee forced to watch this video, can’t you see how unions are bad?? And YOU have to pay a fee to essentially destroy the company so we go under and you have to get a new job! Be a good little employee and keep working hard and forget the word Union exists.

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        How does that work for smaller businesses? Legit asking.

        I’m pro-union, but with a whopping…7 employees on good day, I’m struggling to see how bringing in a union would help without having massive overhead cost due to the lack of quantity being paid in.

        My company already pays as much as it can back to the employees (I am the lowest paid employee, as the owner, at what amounts to a $1 salary), we pay as much as we can afford towards health benefits, we reimburse a portion of home internet and cell, and we do a lot that results in free meals and other gifts for employees.

        That said, I wouldn’t be opposed to a union if it improved morale, but I am just struggling to understand where they would add the best value for the cost. I don’t want my employees to suffer, but frankly if union dues cost like…I don’t know, $3500/mo, I’d much rather just split that money across the employees to pocket on their own.

        edit: To the people down voting, I would legitimately love to hear why. And am looking for feedback on how you think I should fix the situation.

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          With a smaller business yeah you are right as long as the business is paying what it can then no a union is probably not a good idea. As long as the owners are willing to up the pay as far as they reasonably can then the union dues just take from the employee. But I was talking about in general unions are good.

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            Every penny goes to the employees, I pay myself $1 and nothing more, no distributions, no bonuses, no private stock, nothing. During peak COVID I had to pay wages and benefits out of pocket since we were closed.

            At the end of the day I just do the bookkeeping and permits/license paperwork and crap. I’m not doing any of the actual work. So I shouldn’t really be paid.

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      Actually, the executives should probably also unionise, it will help normalise negotiations and spread best practices that lead to a better work environment for all.

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        Executives are already part of a union. Boards approve the executive hiring of a company, but those boards are made up of executives from other companies. And those companies have boards that include executives from other companies. Hiring and firing of executives are handled by a collective of executives across many companies. It’s a union that protects itself.

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        Would be kind of interesting to see what kind of negotiations would arise from having labor, management, and executives all represented by unions!

         

        edited to add missing word

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          If executive unions could enforced a max amount of hours worked for executives and other similar quality of life requirements. Maybe there would be fewer sociopaths and more humans in executive positions.

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          Correct, but they would often benefit from having collective bargaining against the board of directors or other owners.

          And organising themselves as a union would also show them that unions aren’t evil and shift focus from exploitation to cooperation. Besides, many unions would have much use of being able to speak for the whole industry in matters of legislation, either as lobby or expert.

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        I don’t know if that will achieve what you want it to. Remember, the AMPTP is a union and it was able to get concessions from the WGA and SAG-AFTRA which are not good for the workers.