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      Can you elaborate a bit? That statement is too broad. Are you saying the goal of every post critical of Biden’s policies is to convince people not to vote for him in November?

      How long have they been going on? Did they start before the last election? Are they brand new for this one? Are the disinformation campaigns from Russia? The RNC?

      I often post things critical of Biden and the DNC in general. Before i hated Biden i hated Hillary. I have been posting about politics since 2011 on Reddit, i even called folks and donated to

      bernie Sanders. Is this a lie? Did i make up this story? Am I part of this russian/RNC campaign?

      Vote for Biden. (Did i say this ironically?)

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          I have not seen this campaign. Are there any particular things i should look out for? Like, are they saying explicitly ‘don’t vote and send a message to the DNC’? I’ve only personally seen peeps saying they’ll not vote for him but that’s not the same

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            It’s everywhere lately. It’s mostly something along the lines of both Biden and Trump being bad choices, so just don’t make a choice to “send a message”. Especially with the Israel/Palestine stuff, a large group has been convinced that Biden providing aid to the massacre of Palestinians means them voting for him is immoral. I agree it fucking sucks, but not voting is the immoral option. Remember how Trump tried to move things even further to Israel’s favor.

            Some of it is a disinformation campaign to get people to not vote, but I think a large portion of what you see is people who have been convinced of it themselves and spread it organically. It’s impossible to tell the difference though, and it doesn’t really matter that they are different. They are effectively the same, but you can’t tell who actually believes it and who just sees it as useful.

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              don’t make a choice to “send a message”.

              no one has said this.

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                I have seen it plenty of times. How can you say no one has said it. In this thread, yeah I don’t think so. It’s all over the place though.

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          That was not low-effort. I had to make that meme.

          You can’t bully someone into voting the way you want, that’s not democratic and bordering on authoritarianism. It also hardens their resolve and makes them more likely to vote against your position.

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      I will vote for him the second he stops supplying arms to a genocidal regime.

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          Oh look here’s someone who can’t handle the slightest criticism of his God-President!

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              This just in, standing against genocide is “bad faith rhetoric!” More at 8!

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                  No you called my position bad faith rhetoric and doubled down on it being merely propaganda. I’m not manufacturing anything. I didn’t commit any war crimes. I didn’t ask Biden to be complicit in any war crimes. I have observed that he is complicit and have decided to withhold my vote on ethical reasons.

                  You so desperately want me to be a GOP shill you cannot see that I’m a progressive who will not vote for enabling genocide. It’s really that simple. And apparently I’m not alone.

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                  I’m not going to vote for any presidential candidate if he continues down this road.

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    Calling themselves election investigators, the activists have pressed local officials in Michigan, Nevada and Georgia to drop voters from the rolls en masse. They have at times targeted Democratic areas, relying on new data programs and novel legal theories to justify their push.

    Hmmm…

    Trump says it was his decision to describe the 2020 election as ‘rigged’

    So they’re trying to rig the next election on behalf of the f**king douchebag who claimed the last one was rigged.

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    Notable is that the clerks are also complicit in all of this. They are rubber stamping the whole thing and getting called out by their states.

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    It’s not about which group is doing what … it’s all about which group has three most money for marketing and communication. The group with the biggest funding and monetary support will be the one that will carry their message longest and farthest.

    It’s the rich and wealthy that will decide how the population will be swayed.

    And they do not care who the representative is. They could decide on supporting the reanimated corpse of Hitler and given enough money and time, they could get zombie Hitler elected.

    This isn’t a democracy … it’s a plutocracy.

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    person not legally able to vote here

    this has been an ongoing issue not just with what is discussed in the article in the US and yes it was bipartisan politics that took my vote away

    between the people barred from voting and the people not voting and the two main corporate political parties we are utterly fucked

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      If you have enough people with guns then you’d have enough people with votes. If you don’t have enough people to win the vote, then put guns in their hands and they’ll still be outnumbered. Guns aren’t the answer.

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        You did see that the post was about how Republicans are trying to strip Democrats of their ability to vote, right? So, having the votes won’t matter if Republicans game the system to keep Democrats from voting. So, in that case, what other options are left?