Woman: So when you’re not swiping, what do you do?
Men 1-7: It sounds weird, but I’m really into WAR! … Christoph Waltz was sooo creepy as Hans Landa! You have to see it! … so each week both uncredentialled “historians” talk about their favorite times when thousands of men stabbed or shot each other! … and then the good guy took his gun-knife and started prying teeth and slicing ears off the dead guys… literally an entire generation of men was decimated or psychologically damaged… But [Game of Thrones/The Walking Dead/Band of Brothers] is my go-to. What do you watch?
Woman: Mostly cartoons.
More seriously, I’d guess that many, maybe even most people have some level of morbid fascination with the type of violent, high stakes scenarios that people they identify with have been subject to. It’s just kind of weird not to acknowledge that a lot of basically well-adjusted men (I flatter myself that I’m in that group) are into stuff that’s objectively terrifying.
I think people are interested with the extremes of the human experience in general because that’s where the toughest choices and emotions come to light
Exactly
Dan Carlin??
Yep! When he said that it made a lot of genres make sense
You forgot to mention the Roman Empire
I’m only interested in the Roman Emperor, Marcus Aurelius because of his meditations. The things he wrote down for just himself to see are some of the most humbling passages I’ve ever come across. The exception to the rule that absolute power corrupts absolutely. A god to his people who paid a peasant to whisper in his ear to remind him he was just a man. Rome experienced a time of peace and prosperity under his rule without needless wars of conquest.
He was a good man and I aspire to be more like him.
I’m pretty sad Rome got co opted to be like a weird right ideology. I read the Percy Jackson books growing up so I’ve always been fascinated with ancient Greece and Rome.
Oppressive military dictatorship that really likes their military is idolized by wannabe oppressive military dictators who really like their millitary? Who’d have thought?
Oh, also the deep ties to cristianity and fascism. Inquisitions and crusades are exactly the legacy they’re after.
I’ll shit talk the Empire all day but the Inquisitions and Crusades aren’t on them.
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I’m pretty sad Rome got co opted to be like a weird right ideology
Rome was think with right wing ideology for much of it’s history.
A great deal of our understanding of fascism in the modern area comes from Roman histories
My interest in war is that there is nothing higher stakes, it can be a fight for the survival of not just yourself but your family, community, or nation, or even our species if we are talking fiction (or global warming).
So if we were to stereotype the genders, men are typically more interested in death/violence at a humanitary level and women at a personal level.
You didn’t have to call me out like that
uncredentialled “historians”
Point of order. What credentials do you need to talk about history? Is there, like, a history license I don’t know about? Or are you just talking about a particular degree?
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Adventure Time lore is far more complex than any true crime 😤
Also much dark… No Gunter no !
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“When bad things happen, I know you want to believe they are a joke, but sometimes life is scary and dark. That is why we must find the light.”
I literally watched that episode yesterday lol
People are drawn to and fascinated by taboo topics, and one’s experiences and upbringing determine the relationship with those taboos a person has.
Women have personal experiences with creepy/dangerous men, it’s a “known danger” they hear about from a young age, and serial killers represent the extreme example of this – it’s not really surprising “true crime” type media is popular with women.
I’ve sat through 2 murder trials and between the testimony and pictures I can confidently say I’m really not interested in the detailed reality of horrific murders.
But to each their own, I guess.
Well don’t leave us hanging like that, did they convict you or are you planning for number 3?
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Women are obsessed with true crime because we feel vulnerable, and so learning about it helps to hone our instincts to avoid dangerous situations. There’s almost always some warning sign that people ignored and they ended up getting murdered. There’s nothing wrong with true crime used as a cautionary tale. Are children sick because they read fairy tales about wolves eating grandmothers or witches cooking and eating children? Of course not. It’s the same thing.
You try to learn how to read people by watching true crime TV shows?
That’s really counterproductive.
Well she’s right about one thing, and that’s that true crime is about as realistic and useful as fairy tales lol.
Like come on, let’s be real: We watch true crime out of morbid curiosity and because the shows are entertaining. That’s fine! IDK why some people try to launder their interest in true crime as some sort of “research”.
Because no matter what you like and for whatever reason you will always get shit on both here on the internet and IRL. So we’ve all normalized having to defend our opinions.
No, you learn to recognize red flags from real life examples and make the right choices if you’re ever in that situation.
You’re learning red flags from a dramatization of an interpretation of a perhaps-real situation used to sell advertising. Do you think it really reflects things you should use to judge people and situations?
Not all true crime are dramatizations… there are a million YouTube shows out there that show you the exact footage, go over the exact details, etc…
Shoutout to That Chapter!
Do you also do medical research on Facebook?
Are children sick because they read fairy tales about wolves eating grandmothers or witches cooking and eating children? Of course not. It’s the same thing.
Tbf, kids don’t normally seek out those stories. They were created by adults to scare children.
They wouldn’t be so popular if kids didn’t like them.
They aren’t popular though. Modern kids don’t want to hear Hansel and Gretel, they want to watch Bluey. Because what kid wants to hear about a couple of German kids getting lured by a cannibal and eaten?
How the hell is bluey so universally liked by kids tho what is the illusive secret sauce to it that the kids can’t resist watching it
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Nuclear family does wonders
Seriously when will they finally cut the filler and make that bomb that they have been teasing.
They’re popular because scary stories are a very effective method of getting children to obey. Just look at religion.
I think it helps separate you from the victims. If you feel that you wouldn’t have made the same mistakes as the people who went and got murdered, then it feels a lot less like something that might happen to you.
As long you don’t get hyper sensitive to the signs. You could end up overthinking any little sign when it could mean nothing.
For a lot of folks, being a bit more anxious all the time or missing out on a good thing is worth not being victimized. I don’t know if people are actually less likely to be victimized but I think plenty feel that it helps.
Lol. Hey, you know women aren’t allowed to have an opinion about why they like a TV show without being subjected to a bunch of patronizing comments. /s
But I think that’s a a good take, I’ve always wondered why people like true crime so much.
Same. It makes sense in it providing a sense of control over the potential situation.
How someone else can just come in and say your personal reaction to something is wrong seems pretty disrespectful.
They can have a different takeaway, but that does not make your opinion invalid.
Isn’t this the opening line from “Only murders in the building”?
Is it? Neat! Good show, but it’s been awhile since I saw it last.
Nice username.
Something something women are taught to hold keys between each finger just to walk out to their own car at night.
Meanwhile dudes: gonna walk to the store and get some ice cream at midnight yum yum.
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My wife claims its so women can learn patterns to look out for.
My ex-wife claimed it was to learn how to kill me.
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Congratulations on your survival and escape!
Still too early to tell.
She might be Canadian, we might never know
Aka, I learned how to detect signs about criminals when being verbally told about those signs up front after learning about them in huge investigations from serial killers who were caught…
Not even the 2,100 estimated serial killers that aren’t caught…
Simple fact is if someone wants to lie to you, more than likely you’ll believe it lol. Just one of the many things we have to believe to keep society running and ourselves from freaking out daily.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_impression_(psychology)
Yeah, I’m a woman fascinated by true crime. Watching/listening/reading about it just helps me to feel more… aware of how shit can go down. For example, a couple was murdered after a man snuck in behind their car as they pulled into their garage. He was caught on servalience camera, dressed in all black with his face covered. You can watch him very clearly as he easily slips in before the garage door closes. Once that door closed, that couple were goners.
You bet your ass I make damn sure no one has snuck into my garage before I close the door.
Like, obviously you’ll never be able to catch everything, or be so watchful that nothing ever happens to you, but I just feel a lot better knowing what to look out for.
I also love watching interrogation breakdowns, because if I’m ever in a situation where I’m being interrogated, I want to make damn sure I know how to protect myself.
So basically yeah, your wife is correct.
We do but I also love cartoons
all women, is that you?
Hmmmm…I did say i like cartoons… checks. Yup. I did own that one possessively. So nope. The person you’re looking for is not here.
I dunno. Woman, giving an opinion…I think that qualifies as “all women” on the internet. Sorry, I know, heavy is the head.
So just stating I like comics or me acknowledging I’m a woman? I’m apologizing for none of this. Go find yourself a real reason to pick a fight.
woah there. It was very clearly a joke about how women sharing their opinions on the internet is usually used against women and portrayed as “women are saying…” The internet has a bad problem with generalizing and painting all women as a monolith. That was the joke. I thought it was clear, but maybe not.
I’m a woman. I understood it as a joke. You’re okay.
It could easily be read as sarcastic. In normal times, I don’t think that interpretation would be common, but in the internet of today, the toxicity is just so high it’s often the correct interpretation.
I fell into the true crime podcast hole once. I’m never climbing back in again.
Why, and why?
Because I needed something to listen to and it sounded interesting, especially the idea of getting inside the mind of the killer. And the other why is essentially it got depressing, experiencing the horrors of humanity, and so I stopped.
initially read it as different discrete responses to the first panel, and 1+3 is just…
> So when you’re not swiping, what do you do?
> Serial Killers!Putting the serial into serial slayers
Sexist garbage. I’m a woman and i would run a mile from anyone into true crime. It’s creepy as hell.
All of my girlfriends are into true crime and I just don’t get it. I tried it out, got sad, decided it wasn’t for me.
Why does it seem like women are obsessed with murder? 😅
The most recent contrapoints video touched on it in ways that I hadn’t considered as a woman towards the end. But it’s a dense 3 hour video
I usually watch hour long retrospectives on games while I’m lying in bed, so I wouldn’t mind watching it if you can provide the video link! :)
Enjoy it’s the best video I’ve seen on the topic of twilight, most never even touch on Taoism.
Thank you! I’ll try to watch it when I’m lying down today!
Because they are.
Well slap tits on me and call me a lady because I am a huge fan of true crime. I read in cold blood for a high school project and never looked back.
But then I’ve been into horror since childhood as well so it’s not really a huge leap either.
My wife is heavily into police procedurals, the more bizarre and gory the better. I’m thinking of instituting a ‘no sex murder at the dinner table’ rule.
Women like confidence and power. Or more precisely, absolutely everybody likes confidence and power, but women are just more up front about it.
It beats the hell out of, “well today I inched my way along the tunnels of consumption and servitude, sucked a little dominance fantasy, hope I die soon…”.
Please, tell us more.
Base on that article basically every woman assumes men are killers and rapist. No wonder online dating always sucked. So glad I don’t do that anymore.
Guess you can’t date in the real world no more either approach a woman a bar you better have a full background check ready for them.
It’s ok. We’re doing fine without you.(and I don’t think it’s the women with the problem you’re having)
Don’t worry dude, nobody wants to date you anyways :)
What article it’s a fucking comic strip…edit: the article in the post description link, my bad. Carry on with your misogyny I guess.
Not saying i agree with this guy, but the link to the guardian article is right there in the post description.
Oh shit you’re right, I didn’t realize the post description was a hyperlink, going back to fix my last post.
There’s an article linked in the post text
Yeah I missed that, didn’t realize it was a link. Went back to fix.
I assumed it was the link to the source of the strip. That’s a totally reasonable assumption
You only ever look at the pictures, hey?
Green is not normally registered as a hyperlink when I browse, so sue me.
Media standards have been dropping lately…